Pseudo Saturn Compatibility Chart

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  1. jrio

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    I just named it Clockwork Bomberman because that's what it looks like. I honestly don't know what the official title was since it was considered "unreleased". Yes, it is probably Clockwork Knight 3 beta. There are 3 official Bomberman titles for Saturn. Bomberman, Bomberman Fight!, Bomberman Wars. Fight and Wars are Japanese only. Hope this helps clear things up a bit.
     
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  2. jrio

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    It's working perfectly! I went to get a screenshot of the error this morning and it no longer gave me the IP error, and instead booted after 1 error and wiping the disc carefully. As confirmed by Zorlon, it is Japanese. Since this disc is working now that might mean several of the others are too which means we need more than one person testing the same games that are giving errors on Pseudo. It's entirely possible the burns are bad or the discs are bad on some of the errors...

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  4. jrio

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    It's pretty basic. It's like 5mb total uncompressed.
     
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    But the title is written... on the... title screen. :p
    And you should test it seriously, since you said you're doing so. ^_^
    I've tested non-working games for days to be sure they really don't work. And even so the errors are well reported, like Grandia DM, wich is probably working.

    By the way, don't use Multilaser brand for anything in your whole life. From optical disc to pendrives. From GPS to tablets. I won't say a thing about batteries...
    I've tested some batches of CD-R, DVD-R and they didn't last A WEEK.
     
  6. jrio

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    Thoroughly tested and it works. I can't do anything about the console loading or not loading a game. If it loads, great, if it doesn't, I keep trying to figure out why it won't. That's literally the only disc I have that's multilaser and it's fine. I take very good care of my discs and they last a long time. They are also ALL backed up in bin-cue format on dvdrs stored safely. HDDs will fail long before a well taken care of disc.

    Testing a few others today. Can't stop playing Virtua Cop 2 tho! Got out my Thunder Gun today with the auto-reload and auto-fire. It's like having a machine-gun with unlimited ammo :)

    I really REALLY wish The Horde was working. That's one of my favorites :(
     
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  8. jrio

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    I've been collecting isos and backing them up since they started dumping 8 bit and 16 bit rom cartridges which was back in the mid 90's, long before Assembler was even an idea. I have backups from before 2000 that are still good because I know what media to use and how to keep the discs safe. Not only that, I'm very well connected and have access to it all, literally all of it, any time. Those in the know are more worried about losing their HDDs than they are a good set of discs because when the HDDs fail it's usually catastrophic. And when that happens, which it inevitably does, they revert back to their backup discs.

    I've been around a very long time and you have literally no idea who you are talking to but that's okay :)
     
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    ^This!! Sooo true man! cuz recently the HDD on my laptop kept shitting out on itself and everytime i try installing a new or re-install Windows XP it keeps messing up like it refuses to stabilize itself.
     
  10. jrio

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    That sucks :(
     
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    HDDs need "exercise". I mean if you take a stack of HDDs and keep them in a box, they have a chance at suffering of "stuck head platters".

    So once in a while (maybe twice a year) operate them for a few hours. I still see HDDs as a better long term storage than optical discs. I happen to own a 1992 Quantum "PRO DRIVE LPS" 240MB harddrive which still works fine.
     
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    Yeah man i know, and i only had it since about the first time i got my laptop (so basically factory made) and that was back in around 2005 or 2006. Then again it's all my fault for putting so many downloads during those days lol
     
  13. jrio

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    That is the key. As long as they aren't overused or not used at all, they'll usually last. The stuck platters thing sucks and has screwed many a drive :( As long as you keep your discs well protected they'll last, good ones anyway. It never hurts to have multiple backups :)
     
  14. zorlon

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    Nice reminder :p I forgot about that, but been very busy the last wk or so

    I was going to test that myself, if I can find it that is :/

    Edit: oops already have it version 1.002 and version 1.003...
     
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  15. jrio

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    I'll be testing all the lightgun games at some point in the near future with an actual lightgun.

    @ Zorlon, Road Rash USA works, but I did find a big graphics glitch when you go to buy a bike in the first shop. I need someone else to confirm the same thing is happening.

    Also, a little tip for those of you testing your own burns on a real Saturn with Pseudo. Any "disc error" messages are most likely a result of either the disc itself having a flaw or a bad burn. Those of you who were involved in the Sega Saturn backup scene way back when in the late 90's will remember that there were issues with getting a "proper" burn so that it would play on your Saturn. Back in the day we used programs like CDRwin and Fireburner to make sure we had proper discs that would work on a Saturn, but nowadays these pieces of software are obsolete and everyone is burning games using whatever software. I can tell you from heavy, extended experience that it takes decent software and slow burn speeds to get a proper Sega Saturn disc. Not all software works and a lot of modern software is garbage for this process.

    Just my 2 cents on the subject.
     
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    I've been reading this thread and have to say I'm confused. What is pseudo Saturn? From what I can gather it's just a way to boot Saturn CDR copies but now with some games having issues? Any Saturn game ripped with pretty much any good software will play back just fine one a Saturn using the disc swap. Even those in the compatability list on page one. I don't see the point of this method.
     
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    In simple words, Pseudo Saturn plays games on CD-R, as the swap trick does, but works by only plugging a cartridge on your Saturn.
    Pseudo Saturn has some incompabilities with few games, but I believe most of them can be fixed, and Pseudo Saturn have the advantage to be relatively cheap, non-invasive (no need to solder modchip on Saturn motherboard), and easier to perform than swap-trick.


    Well, this firmware can run from rear cartridge connector, but
    - it requires a lot of work to execute SH-2 firmware from rear cartridge connector, because it is not directly mapped to SH-2 bus.
    - jhl already made CD-R loading possible from custom MPEG-like cartridge, so starting this project now is just a waste of time
    It is not as simple as removing ROM chip, flashing ROM, and soldering back to cartridge : starting the project from scratch (design cartridge PCB, etc) would actually be simpler I think.


    By "other things" that you would like to be done from top cartridge, what do you mean ?
    - RAM extension
    - Backup Memory
    - Cheat codes
    - Other ? <- please specify
     
  19. zorlon

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    Added just about all of those, but I could not add the following due to lack of info

    FIFA '96 (US) (NO) how?
    NBA Jam T.E. (US) (NO, GLITCHED OUT ON BOOT) how?
    NBA Live '97 (US) (NO) how?
    Scud (US) (NO, DIES AT GAMEPLAY) how and at what point?
    Sim City 2000 (US) (perfect albeit slow as hell) load time or the game that is slow??
    Strikers 1945 Part 2 (JP) (NO, BAD DISC?) ????
    Warriors of Fate (JP) (NO, BAD DISC?) ????

    I just need to know how these do not work, the most common issues is a freeze that even opening the lid will not take you back to the bios screen, if that is the case I want to know when that happens, the other common one seems to be booting to a Black screen (this can also happen after starting a new game)

    Just give as much detail as possible I can fit it as best as possible for the compat list

    EDIT:- Added small note to Road Rash for you also
     
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  20. jrio

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    FIFA '96 (US) (NO) how? Doesn't boot at all. Could be bad disc.
    NBA Jam T.E. (US) (NO, GLITCHED OUT ON BOOT) how? Boots and then glitches.
    NBA Live '97 (US) (NO) how? Doesn't boot at all. Could be bad disc.
    Scud (US) (NO, DIES AT GAMEPLAY) how and at what point? Will load the game, then dies right before gameplay like Panzer Dragoon Saga.
    Sim City 2000 (US) (perfect albeit slow as hell) load time or the game that is slow?? Very slow load times but I think this is normal for Sim City 2000.
    Strikers 1945 Part 2 (JP) (NO, BAD DISC?) ???? Needs to be tested by someone else, could be bad disc.
    Warriors of Fate (JP) (NO, BAD DISC?) ??? Could be a bad disc, needs to be tested by someone else.

    Nanatsu Kaze No Shima Monogatari (jap) 2CD <---- the 2nd cd is a bonus disc with artwork etc. There's no swap or anything needed to boot the 2nd cd because it's a regular cdrom. Both cds work perfectly.

    It's pretty much imperative we have someone else testing anything that I've tested and received an error on or that it didn't work at all. It's very likely some of these discs are just bad or the burn wasn't good to begin with. The only way to know for sure is have multiple sources checking some of these.

    Also, I organized that big list for you alphabetically. Hope this helps :)
     
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