Hi, I'm kinda new, sorry in advance if this is easily answerable. A while back I picked up a binder of PS1 discs. It had a few oddities, but this one has bugged me. The disc boots on my US PS1 & PS2, but has no label on top other than the scrawl. I've only ever played this copy of the game so I cant comment as to differences there may or may not be if any. Is this a bootleg, or a manufacturing defect or something else? It seems pretty normal in gameplay and its volume is labeled "SLUS_00382" I've never seen anything like it, but I have admittedly limited experience. //tg
What's written on the inner disc ring? It's not a retail copy, might be a pre-production copy? Beta? SLUS_00382 is the correct serial for Re-Loaded. http://www.sonyindex.com/Pages/SLUS-00382.htm
The picture is a bit low-quality, but the matrix code looks like a proper Sony DADC matrix code for PS1 discs. It looks simply like a retail discs taken out of the line before it was printed, as a sample disc for the pressing plant during production. Then probably used as a promo by the publisher later. Curious about it being silver bottomed though, I know there are some official NTSC-U/C games which are silver-bottomed, but not this one? I'm guessing it was pressed in advance of the retail pressing (but with stamper from same master, so identical contents), and just pressed as a regular silver disc. Here's a Sega Saturn example: http://www.crimson-ceremony.net/lostreleases/item.php?id=redemo_re1-ss-eur-promo1 CD-Audio example: http://www.crimson-ceremony.net/pr3/page.php?id=tp-cd-unplugged1
Thanks for the replies. I didnt think about it, but I suppose I shouldnt be surprised. I live ~10 minutes from a DADC plant. The idea that its a sample from before printing makes a lot of sense. I'm going to try and get ahold of the person I bought it from. I think someone related to him worked in the DADC plant if memory serves. Higher res versions available below. They arent cropped, sorry in advance. http://680x0.com/~ulterior/Image.jpg http://680x0.com/~ulterior/Image2.jpg
Wow, I thought I'd replied; guess it didnt post. I appreciate the help. I should've thought about it being a test disc. I live ten minutes from a DADC plant and this explination makes a lot of sense. I've included two links to higher res images, albeit not cropped. http://680x0.com/~ulterior/Image.jpg http://680x0.com/~ulterior/Image2.jpg Thanks@ //td
The ring code is the correct master code as well: PSRM-005660 http://redump.org/disc/7080/ Curiously though the Mould SID Code (where it was mastered) is different: IFPI L330 instead of IFPI 5068 (retail copy) Using google for IPFI codes info: http://home.lyse.net/bki/met/ifpi-codes.html There we can confirm IFPI L330 it's a SID Code CD Master. The IFPI 50** is the factory designation.
Nothing weird there, LBR IFPI L*** as digitally written in the matrix codes identifies the laser beam recorder used to make the glass master, stamped mould IFPI **** identifies the pressing plant + mould. I can't see the numbers on the scans shown, but L330 and 50** (and also 51**, 72**) are Digital Audio Disc Corp numbers, so if it has them it's OK, but it's not really necessary to check - I can see from the font/layout that it's a DADC matrix. But there's something weird about this thread. A while ago it said on the forum list that tangerinedream had posted after my previous post, but I cannot see that post. It also says that there are 4 replies to this thread (not including OP), but there are only 3 (before posting this message)... (I have the same problem with this thread: http://www.assemblergames.com/forums/showthread.php?47611-GD-R-Ebay-Find It just gives me the thread title, and then straight to the "post quick reply" box. No post.)
It's happening all over the place. Strange. The disc is indeed just a retail disc removed before silk screening (including the black coating).
Your post makes it seem that "black coating" is applied after the disc has been pressed? How would they do that? The black color (purple actually) must be in the plastic itself. Importance being (nitpicking really) that it wasn't taken from the actual retail pressing which I assume were black-bottomed, but an advance pressing - which strictly isn't necessary for digital media as discs can be digitally inspected very quickly, as opposed to vinyl which needs test pressings for QC
