Questions about Xbox 360 Dev Kits

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  1. EazyB

    EazyB Rapidly Rising Member

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    hey guys i have been saving some money and i am planning on buying a 360 dev kit, although id like to know what capabilities of different ones are before i buy.

    360 Demo Kit-400 to 500
    360 Reviewer Kit-600 to 700
    360 Test Kit-1100 to 1300
    360 Dev kit-800 to 1500
    thanks to Pikkon^

    I plan on using it for Dev/modding, so i have a few questions about each kit type.
    Demo and reviewer kits, from what i have read these are used to preview games before they are released to general public. I have been told it is possible to do dev on these, can someone explain please? from what ive read they dont have sidecars, which are necessary for dev? or am i wrong? If these can be used for dev, can i get an outline of how they are used? is it as simple as a running a cord to my PC or something more 'involved'. Dev and test kits i understand have full dev capabilities and come complete with sidecars if the price is right. again,
    is connecting to my pc simple or require special setup? I also would like to know, can they all access partnernet or only certain kits? thanks for the help.
     
  2. neull

    neull Guest

    Demo Kit:
    • Used at trade shows like E3.
    • Look exactly like a Retail 360.
    • The most basic model that will run unsigned code, and access PartnerNet.
    Reviewer Kit:
    • Is a Smoky Gray Color, like a Dev Kit.
    • Usually has a 60GB Hard Drive
    • Shipped to reviewers at magazines, and websites.
    Test Kit:
    • White like retail models.
    • Usually has a sidecar attached, if it doesn't wires will be coming from the top, allowing a sidecar to be attached.
    • Only the DVD Emulation port is installed though
    • Has larger Hard Drive, usually about 100-160GB.
    Dev Kit:
    • Is a Smokey Gray color.
    • Has Kernel Debugging enabled
    • May, or may not have a Sidecar attached.
    • Usually has a bigger hard drive (100-160GB).
    All of these will access PartnerNet, and you can develop games and apps on everyone, but only by using the 360 SDK (basically, you install Visual Studio, install the SDK, then connect to a router, or directly to the Xbox Kit to dev).

    Test Kits, and some Dev Kits have Sidecars with them, these Sidecars have either one or two USB-B ports on the back, if it has one, then you can use the DVD Emulation feature, and play Debug/Work in Progress games directly from a computer's Hard Drive; if the Test/Dev Kit has two Ports one will be the DVD Emulation, the other will be the PIX (Performance Investigator for Xbox) port, which lets you see what the CPU is outputting.

    Hope this helps.
     
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  3. Dark Seraph91

    Dark Seraph91 Enthusiastic Member

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    so the only differene between a dev kit and a test kit is that the dev kit has kernal debugging enabled?
     
  4. Pikkon

    Pikkon "Moving in Stereo"

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    ^ yes
     
  5. Dark Seraph91

    Dark Seraph91 Enthusiastic Member

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    well what exactly is kernal debugging?
     
  6. EazyB

    EazyB Rapidly Rising Member

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    thanks to everyone for their help, i hope to get into this in a few weeks or so. i think i should go ahead and go for the test kit, it fills my needs. thanks again.
     
  7. mathieulh

    mathieulh Problem Solver

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    Some devkits also come in white casings, especially the ones used internally by M$.
     
  8. Krypton_VII

    Krypton_VII Peppy Member

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    You can kernal debug with any kit if you have Visual Studio Pro 2005...

    Just the sidecar Kernal debugging is less a hassle.
     
  9. neull

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    Ah, thanks for that Xenon, I wasn't aware that every debug had kernel debugging.
     
  10. Pikkon

    Pikkon "Moving in Stereo"

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    Yup,its all in the docs.
     
  11. Paulo

    Paulo PoeticHalo

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    Just to make things abit more clear. Ive already deleted the other post about dev kits. This isnt the forum to sniff around with semi want to buy/sale posts to bypass the marketplace and its rules.
     
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  12. Dark Seraph91

    Dark Seraph91 Enthusiastic Member

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    paulo if your referring to me i wasnt trying to imply i was in the market for a dev kit/testkit/etc. i was merelly asking how much they cost and some information about them.
     
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