Questions regarding RGB N64 Mod.

Discussion in 'Modding and Hacking - Consoles and Electronics' started by level42, Aug 5, 2012.

  1. level42

    level42 Spirited Member

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    So, I recently tacked RGB modding of my N64. Turned out quite well, however when I use the standard composite cables, I get only audio.

    From what I've been reading is that I need an SCART cable from the N64. The problem is, I don't have an SCART input.

    Typically, I'd like to keep the composite cable (The go into my 8 ch composite splitter) or I'd like to upscale it further to HDMI.

    No, again from what I've read is that if I have an RGB modded N64, output to SCART, then convert it back to composite with an adapter, I'll reduce the quality back to before it was modded.

    My question is, what are my options? and what are the best ways to wire the N64 to the TV? (32" LCD, available input types, RCA Composite, and HDMI, possibly VGA)

    Of all the reading I found, most of them simply talk about the soldering that needs to be done inside the console, and not the wiring that needs to take place outside the console.

    Anyone who can help, thanks!.
     
  2. takeshi385

    takeshi385 Mojarra Frita Bandit

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    Scrat rgb to vga converter. Look at the xrgb series thats what most people around here use.
     
  3. Bad_Ad84

    Bad_Ad84 The Tick

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    What?

    You modded the N64 for RGB, but then you want to use a composite cable?

    Then whats the point? If you want to use composite, do not mod the n64.

    If you want RGB - get rgb scart input or get something that will scale the RGB to VGA/HDMI or component.
     
  4. Lum

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    Right turning RGB back into composite requires a video encoder. No point since N64 already does that.
     
  5. brainpann

    brainpann Site Supporter 2012

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    What exactly did you do to RGB mod your N64? It shouldn't be too difficult to fix. I have RGB and composite on my N64 tied to a switch and it works great. Please, be very detailed or just send a link to the guide you used. Then we can take it from there.
     
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    Why bother when it wants to use composite...?

    I suspect there is a distinct lack of understanding composite vs rgb and such.
     
  7. Lum

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    I think he knows turning back into composite won't help. "I'll reduce the quality back to before it was modded."
     
  8. level42

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    Right, it's just that composite cables are the only ones I have on hand at the moment, and before I go buying parts and cables, I'd like to know what I should get.

    Is there such a thing as SCART to HDMI? and are they any good?
     
  9. Lum

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    SCART to HDMI has gigantic quality range. The common types are some $50. Extremists can find others over $400.
     
  10. sleepinglion

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    I've been looking for someone trustworthy I can send my N64 to for RGB modding... but not a lot of luck. The gentleman I normally send my units to it fantastic but he does not yet offer N64 or SNES RGB modding. I was wondering if anyone can please direct me to someone who can help. I would really appreciate that! He mentioned a Jrok board which he'll be using on my upcoming NES RGB mod, it would result in component out in the back rather than SCART. Sounds good to me!

    PS
    This is it: Jrok RGB to YPbPr converter

    If you're still looking for a non-SCART solution, this may be a great idea!
     
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  11. Lum

    Lum Officer at Arms

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    Only the NTSC exclusive SNES JR requires an RGB mod. (Nintendo never sold that redesigned console in PAL)
     
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  12. sleepinglion

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    I did not know that. I have an SNES Jr, actually, and just had it modded to restore S-Video output. I had no idea the original allowed component out. That's pretty amazing.
     
  13. Lum

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    No. Without mods the original uses SCART type RGB.

    Not component. (though I've heard some revisions have a mod available)
     
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  14. APE

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    I do N64 and SNES RGB mods.
     
  15. sleepinglion

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    Fantastic! I will be PMing you soon!
     
  16. sleepinglion

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    I tried sending a PM but it didn't seem to go through... my serial number is NS158910978. I believe that's a moddable one. Please contact me at ah394496@ohiou.edu if you can. I'd be interested in having a Jrok board installed as well to allow me to plug component cables directly into the N64 back. Thanks so much!
     
  17. level42

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    What do you mean "quality range"?

    Like a $50 converter wont do much good, and if I want the best picture I'll need to spend $400?
     
  18. marqs

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    One thing to also keep an eye on with converters is input lag. A converter is quite useless for games if it buffers several frames, even if the image quality would be great. A simple scan doubler (15kHz to 30kHz RGB) would only buffer a few scanlines and output VGA, but they may be not so easy to find nowadays, and still leaves VGA->digital conversion to TV. I'd recommend xrgb, if the price is not a problem.
     
  19. level42

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    So, can I export the video signal into component or something? What's the best option for a North American user?
     
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