Quite possibly one of the most offensive ebay auctions

how is this offenssive? i hear the n world all the friggin day at the radio so dont think is offensive nigger = stupid? nigga = something cool to call another black person? negro = black?

 

I could see how someone would get offended at this book, but only if you take it out of context.

Like, if this was some neo-nazi selling this book, making fun of blacks and stuff in the description.

But the seller is very business-like, problably becasue he knew the books title would be controversial.

I bet he's still getting a lot of hate mail though. You'd think that some civil rights organization would be interested in this, so show the history of discrimination here in the United States.

There used to be a museum here in Los Angeles called the Museum of tolerance, this would fit right in. To me, nothing shows how utterly ingrained this racist attitude was at the time more than this kids book.

 

it's actually a pretty cool read. I mean no one took it seriously when it was released and look what happened. Neo Nazis show their stupidity by making this book into something it's not. It's just a hitler rant...

 

Even all the old Merry Melodies/Looney Toons and MGM/UA cartoons are heavily edited.

http://looney.goldenagecartoons.com/ltcuts/

 

He's got another book as well: http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dl...39731&ssPageName=MERC_VI_RSCC_Pr4_PcN__Stores

 

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It is offensive to the naked eye (the average person scanning through ebay auctions) but it is just an unlucky product name that was from an item made many many years ago before socity moved on.

It has nothing to do with the seller being racist or anything like that, its just a item with a bad name that will appeal to collectors of books and engravings. However the seller didnt really have to scan the entire book page by page, he could have said E-Mail for more pics....

 

Stupid, no. Perhaps a bit on the careful side, yes. Swords can just as well be used to kill people, so having a restrictive law as a safeguard isn't a bad thing, if only just to increase the treshold.

 

A bit on the careful side? I'd say more paranoid than careful. A chefs knife can kill just as any other knife, but no permit needed. If someone is a big enough wack job, what's the permit going to do? I wonder how many people have them without having a permit?

Anyway, it just seems odd to me that you'd need a permit to collect knives or swords. Carry on.

 

I'd hate to spawn another 3654326 pages of flaming, but your country *does* have a rather suspicious bijection between firearms leniency and gun-related deaths.

 

Christ, bijection? that's a big word for a Thursday lunchtime!

 

No doubt, while I am for gun rights you'll get no argument from me. That's kind of why I left the guns out of it. One problem is that guns are so prevalant here that anyone can get one, legal or not. It's just as easy to kill some one with a bat as a gun or sword, and I'll leave it at that.

I'd be glad to carry it on in the politics thread, if we still have it after the move.

 

Hey, I'm a CS student, I eat dat shiznit for breakfast

 

I am under educated, I had to look it up.

 

In the UK, you aren't allowed to carry a blade above a certain size, I think either 4" or 6". And even then, I think you need a reason to be carrying one.

I'm not sure on the laws of owning a samurai sword in private - anywhere else and you'd be arrested. They're probably legal in your own house.

As for guns, if you have guns then you need to have them locked in a secure gun cabinet. Is that not the case in the US?

Yeah, there are lots of things that can be used as weapons, but the obvious things that are INTENDED as weapons should be controlled carefully. I don't see anything wrong with needing a license for a weapon such as a gun or a samurai sword. C'mon, you can't tell me Samurai invented the things to go and cut flowers!!

 

I can see not being allowed to carry a knife with a 6" or longer blade, open or closed. A knife that big is not much good for anything but gutting something.

Guns in the US for the most part do not have to be locked up. This can vary from state to state, since they can make their own laws. The only real legal restrictions are age and criminal history, but criminal don't care much for laws.

Again this may vary from state to state, but to own a rifle or shot gun you must be 18. To own a hand gun you must be 21. If your state has concealed carry, you must be 21 and have a local and federal background check. To buy a rifle or shot gun all you need is proof of age and fill out a form asking various questions and you can walk out the door with it. Handguns, for the most part have a three day waiting period. In some states, if you have a concealed carry permit they allow you to take it that day. Children may use guns with adult supervision, but may not own them per se.

Where I used to live (Wash. State) had concealed carry permits, but you still were not allowed to carry in certain places. Schools, hospitals, court house, police stations, places where you had to be 21 or over (bars) and only one or two other places I can't recall. In Missouri they just passed a carry law and they same types of places apply, but if someone puts up a sign stating that guns are not allowed it's a no go. Here is a stupid law here though, you can have a loaded handgun in your car as long as it's in plain sight. You don't need any kind of permit for that! At least in Washington you couldn't have a loaded gun in you car at all unless you had a permit and it had to be on your person. You couldn't have a gun and ammo in the same spot either, so the gun had to be in the trunk or something.

Yep, the samurai gardener... sounds familiar. I agree that some type of system needs to be in place, especially for guns. I feel that it's a privilege not a right, to own guns. A lot of Americans feel the other way round about it, ie it's my constitutional right to bear arms. Excuse me but I call B.S.! When that document was written it held true, but in todays USA it's really not needed.

All that being said, I like to have a gun or two around. I don't have any anymore, but will again at somepoint. I don't hunt, just shoot paper targets.

 

Sorry to sound stupid, but whats a "concealed Carry permit"?

 

When i went to china me and friends came back with at least 4 swords and knifes... not a single person stoped us to ask anything. (not in hand luggage though). Back in 2000.

 

@ the_steadster

It's a permit given by the state you live in, allowing you to carry (on your person) a concealed handgun. You must apply for them and pay a fee, usually you must renew every two to five years. They do a state and federal back ground check, but this is flawed in a big way!

Not all states have (allow) them and they are only good in your state about 99.5% of the time.

 

Ah, wonderful, I was wondering when this subject would be once again broached by a representative of the no-doubt superiour European way...

While I'd have to agree on the idea that the book in its own right could be an interesting historical piece showing how far we've come, the fact that A) The seller's name is rebel_soldier and B) that the 4 random links to his other auctions are, and I quote: '1910 windup toy ALABAMA COON JIGGER wind-up tin NEGRO', '1852 H.B. Stowe UNCLE TOM'S CABIN book 1ST EDITION', '1896 book 9 NIGGERS MORE Color Illustrated * RARE *' and '1918 windup toy ALABAMA COON JIGGER wind-up tin NEGRO' all make me wonder how benign the seller might really be. Honestly, it just smacks of one of the good 'ol boys that drive very big pickups with a Confederate flag painted on the hood...

 

He said nothing about superiority, neither did he imply it, he merely pointed out a fact.

I suggest any further comments about America's gun issues should take place in/be moved to the political thread.