Yeah... I've known him personally for years. He's mental - as in, he's diagnosed with some sort of mental illness. edited by karsten: people directed sarcasm doesn't help discussion It's simple - both of these are done without consent of one of the parties, and one of them (pedophilia) also damages the victim's body (including the brain). Now I know it's hard to know whether most animals (can) consent to such activities, that is why I said I have nothing against zoophilia when it doesn't hurt the animal (which, I believe, is the view of most of us here, and what you conveniently ignored). Laws are not the same things as ethics. There are stupid laws. Similarily, there are stupid ethics. Just because something is outlawed, doesn't mean it's wrong -- and just because something isn't outlawed, doesn't mean it's alright to do it. Laws are usually created by either the majority, or the cleverest minority. What makes you think that the majority (or the clever minority) is the wisest by default? I don't reply to such threads to impress anybody, and I'm far from belonging to the zeitgeist here. I enjoy exchanging opinions. It's fun, that's all. There is a certain danger to this, though (some members might prefer not to deal with me, after reading some of my posts).
just willingly, to pint out a few things. I'm just normal male, with GF and never got interested or practiced "weird" sexual acts. i'm not trying to save face, like you said, or to appear open minded, for saying so Obviously when i'll have a child i wish he'll not be gay/homosexual,zoophile or such :/ also i consider "sick in the head" pedos, necrophile, cohoprofiles and such people, but not father then that. it's just that i'm such a kind of man that can accept everything that doesn't contain, violence, childs, shit, dead people. I'll never judge people only on their sexual tastes for saying so. For example, youy may be shocked, but i wouldn't care for inchest at all if there's no change of pregnancy. also i don't understand this: "Why is doing it with a young animal ok but not kids?" what do you mean? the two things are not related at all. also i'm not a tech in zoophilia, so i can't understand the topic well... you mean too young animals? ?_? but i "think" and i'm pretty "sure" that real zoos don't kill or hurt their pets. if they do, i'm against it, if they don't i'm neutral. i think that the principles of not hurting or forcing anyone have value always. and concerning aids... wolvie answered you. hope you won't feel attacked or offended, by many answers, it's just that i'm an open minded man for real, and i felt my sincerity to be placed in discussion, for saying so.I can get blamed me anything, but not for being a liar, or falsely open minded.(not that you had so far, i mean in general) karsten
Hm. That's all a bit much for my tastes. But each to its own, I guess. I'll be avoiding this topic from here on out.
Your'e basically proving every single aspect of my post. I think animal sex is unnatural. That is all. Does it make me biased and closed minded? Fine, then so be it. And either way, animals can't consent. Even if the animal isn't hurt, its still unnatural. And I'm pretty sure a Gerbil or whatever doesn't like being up an asshole. Would YOU like to be up an asshole? I think you guys get way too touchy about stuff like this. Someone can't have an opinion on different sexual activities without someone getting their panties in a twist. And if you guys want to get technical about it, Coprophilia hurts no one! OMG YOU GUYS AREN'T BEING OPEN MINDED! edited: no need to be THIS descriptive ! And BDSM contains varying degrees of violence, so what do you think about that? Oh, and Karsten, just saying you don't want your kids to be gay or zoophiles means your prejudiced and need to go through some "Therapy" class the rid yourself of these negative thoughts, because being against anything sexual related is "Wrong" here. I'm guessing its because of animal related STDs, rather than Ethics. Even if AIDS didn't come from Monkeys, I imagine the Government doesn't want some plague to rise from sticking a diseased rat up your ass and then fucking everyone you know. Yes, I guess my post seems like I'm a ranting trogolodyte. But honestly, can you expect every single person on this board to be 100% for fucking anything that moves?
The bizarre postings continue, but it reminds me of this BBC News story: http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/africa/4748292.stm I don't think I'll be following this thread though. Puts a whole new spin on the Beach Boy's album 'Pet Sounds'. :-( barf!
you thinking that animal sex is unnatural is own right nobody blames you about that. we have different degrees of open mindedness in this world. sure i wouldn't be happy if my childs would do that, but i didn't say i would hospitalize them. actually in my country some gay guys are hospitalized in church driven places to be brainwashed to not be gay anymore. i woud accept a homosexual child. i wouldn't be happy about it as i said also, you are right, coprophilia doesn't hurt anyone. but i find it disgusting anyway. i stated that i'm open minded, not that i'm open to everything.
Where I live, I'm a fairly liberal person as opposed to everyone else. I'm about the only one to question whether gays are going to hell or not when its preached about in our Church. Thats between them and God as far as I am concerned, and I do not hate gays. In fact, the only type of sex "Offender" I'd hate would be anything involving a child. If some zoophile screwed a kitten I'd be outraged though. I saw a picture of some Chinese woman killing a kitten in a gruesome manner "For fun" and was horrified. I also saw a picture of someone pouring Zippo (lighter fluid) on a cat and igniting it and wondered why someone would do something like that. I've got my own opinions and biases on certain things, mainly sexually oriented, but that doesn't mean I'd hate people like that, I'd just think they were weird and would hope my kids one day wouldn't do that. I wouldn't be happy if my son or whatever turned out to be gay, but I wouldn't shun or hate him for it either. But being an animal lover is too extreme for me. If I had a kid and he was into crap like that, I'd at least want to be unaware of it at least. And just because I use the word Gay in a derogatory manner over 3 years ago and still get reminded of it, does not mean I hate them. Its more of a "Dead horse beating" vibe from a certain member that keeps on bringing old things up and egging people on. I'm doing it a bit right now myself, but I don't do it almost every damn day. If you get right down to it, I'm like the opposite of many people here. Some people here are unbiased to certain sexual pratices and only like certain genres of games, but I like most genres of games and consoles all at the same time, except I'm fairly old fashioned sexually speaking.
It's amazing the kind of things that appear on this board, isn't it? Who would have thought that when they joined they could end up in deep philosophical discussions about zoophilia?
our views are almost the same actually. and they are almost the same with all the other people on the board too. i don't think gay should go to hell. i mean if they don't hurt anyone why should they? also about the cat, hurting or killing animals have nothing to do with zoophilia. also i guess cats aren't involved in it.
Oh, I know, I was just saying raping a kitten would be like Zoophile CP or something. As for animals like cats being involved in stuff like that, you'd probably be surprised. One of my other friends sent me a link of a woman sticking a Snake up her Vagina. I thought it was bizarre, not only because it was animal sex, but because it was a snake. That other stuff was just me saying how much I hate people that do things for meanness like killing animals and stuff. Thats how serial killers start out. I tend to ramble on and on, so don't worry.:thumbsup:
so how come no one is discussing it (the contents of the link) as a form of historical art, besides its content? is it that shocking that it must attract all attention to its "sex" component? reminds me of school, when the teacher would say "penis" we would all laugh, but it wasn't really funny if you look back. ;-)
the topic slided away by accident i guess anyway we are and incredible community to be able to keep up with such topics without flaming or anything. a topic that might have made a mess in sex only forum too by the way, mr casual, in case you haven't noticed, i edited a phrase of your topic, because some user might have found it too descriptive.
heh, yes, we sure are a colourful bunch. On the point of Yakumo though, people treat animals bad anyway - for purposes of labour, food, skin, bones, you name it. Having sex with it, whether under-age or not, cant be as bad as killing veil for example. Animals have been the victims (rightfully so, since each animal will abuse another for its survival) of humans from the beggining of man's time - a little bang won't make a difference =p Besides, most female animals are used to sex without consent based on the fact that male animals usually force their way. Did you know that dolphins (bottlenose) gang-bang and rape female dolphins sometimes? Wiki if you can't believe it
And that's exactly why I expressed it. I am not an expert on zoophlia, but I would imagine some more intelligent animals might find it pleasurable. I might be wrong, I might be right, I have no idea, and I can't say I want to find out =P I must say it's the exact opposite of what I think. I'll repeat, I don't hold any grudge or anything against you for having an opinion. And I'm not trying to discriminate you for having a different mindset than me. If anything, I find different viewpoints interesting. Myself, I don't engage in any of the paraphilias, nor I find them arousing in any way. And yes, I find most of them bizarre and I can't imagine myself doing it. However, I wouldn't go as far to outlaw them, just because I find them weird. I think you missed my point entirely. What I meant, is that idiots get elected too. Just because someone is a president, doesn't mean he's the wisest guy on earth, etc. I am sure there are some laws you wholeheartedly disagree with. Does that mean you are wrong? Or might it mean that the law is wrong? Coming back to you thinking I'm assaulting you or something. No, in fact I agree with most of what you say. Personally, it makes my blood boil whenever I see pointless hurting of animals. I won't even start saying how much I hate the fact that this happens and what would I do to a person doing it, because I would ramble for much too long. But since topic was zoophilia, not pointless killing of animals, I didn't mention it. BTW, I saw all the videos you mentioned (in passing), probably thanks to a site we both visit. They are horrible... I think the woman got arrested for doing it to the kitten (I've read it somewhere... I hope it's true). Man, I would skin people like this alive :/
Hmm..didn't HIV come from eating monkeys, not boning them? Topics turned a bit strange. I remember that 'Animal passions' program that was on C4 a while ago...pretty strange stuff.
I think it's unnatural too. I'm not afriad of sounding bigoted, just what I think. I'll never understand people who get turned on at the idea. That being said, although I don't understand the whole Furry Fetish, dressing up in a furry costume and getting it on with another human being may be "wierd," but it's a big difference than doing your thing with a member of an acutal different species.
I think animals are dumb, especially dogs. I love my dogs, but they hump the strangest things. I remember one time one of my Dogs mounted the other....but on his face! My whole family always tells them "DONT BE GAY" or "He's not your girlfriend!" when one tries to do that to the other. I've also heard it was a display of dominance over the other, but still, are they trying to dominate the pillow or leg of a chair when they mount it?
Mr. Casual, when they aren´t mounting eachother, then they are probably masturbating, and doing the "sin" of Ona.
many dogs mount each other as a sign of dominance, nothing sexual to it. Whilst mounted however, they may get aroused. Don't forget that it's a primate's "special" thumb position that has allowed us to masturbate without having to rub against something. People would be as silly, if not worse, had they had different finger configurations
