Recommend me an Arcade Stick!

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  1. CrAzY

    CrAzY SNES4LIFE

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    For the Xbox 360.
    I have been looking into alot of them on Amazon and such, and the one for the most decent price looks pretty nice, but it is supposed to be pretty big and I am no expert. So how good is the Hori Arcade Pro EX-SE?

    http://www.amazon.com/Xbox-360-Real-Arcade-Pro-EX-SE/dp/B002FKYPU4/

    But wtf? They raised the price $20 from a day ago.
    I know the Tournament Edition stick from MadCatz is good (as heard from many). And I heard the Hori EX2 blows, is this true?
    I just want a stick that is reliable with good fast responsive buttons. & maybe not so damn expensive!:banghead:
     
  2. Solemn Nomad

    Solemn Nomad Member

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    I have the Hori EX-2, HRAP EX-SE, and the Mad Catz Tournament Edition sticks. I don't recommend getting the EX-2. The buttons are made by Hori so the quality isn't great. You can mod it and through new Sanwa or Seimetsu buttons in it but honestly its more trouble than its worth. Even with arcade buttons the enclosure is sub-par.

    The HRAP EX-SE is a great stick and I highly recommend it. It comes stock with both Seimetsu buttons and stick. The enclosure is moddeled after the popular Sega Astro City arcade cabinet and provides a solid base for gaming.

    The Mad Catz TE is probably my favorite stick that I own, coming with Sanwa stick and buttons stock. Its modeled after the Taito Vewlix arcade cabinet and is an inch or so thinner than the EX-SE yet is still solid feeling when it sits on your lap.

    I'd say go with the HRAP EX-SE if you need a stick right now. If you can wait, MarkMan, the designer of the TE stick will frequently post deals for the Mad Catz store on the NeoGAF "Arcade Stick thread." You might be able to score one for about 100 bucks.

    http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=207393

    Hope that helps.
     
  3. subbie

    subbie Guardian of the Forum

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    If you can fork out the $$$, go with the most expensive Hori you could find that uses real arcade parts. They are the best.

    Cheap sticks are never worth using.

    I miss my VFHG I had for PS3 (but I kind of made a killing on it, I end up selling it for more then when I got it).
     
  4. Solemn Nomad

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    Yeah, the VFHG is a really nice stick. I don't understand why they stopped making them, there is clearly a market for them. I wonder why they never made Xbox 360 versions. VF5 was on the 360 aswell.:shrug:
     
  5. graciano1337

    graciano1337 Milk Bar

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    check your local gamestop. i got the Marvel vs Capcom limited edition MadCatz tournament edition stick for $99. it's awesome, the best around.
     
  6. 7Force

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    I've got the TE stick, and have to agree it's probably the best one around, or at least the best one I've used. Never knew there was an MvC version.

    Also agree that cheap sticks aren't worth using, and the EX2 is definitely a cheap stick.
     
  7. subbie

    subbie Guardian of the Forum

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    Madcats TE sticks are not bad but still a higher end Hori is better.

    Not sure why they didn't make more. They are amazing sticks with my only complaint was the button arrangement wasn't great for 4 button games like tekken but just fine with 6 button fighters.

    As for no 360 version, at the time when it was made there was only the PS3 version.
     
  8. 7Force

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    What do you mean by it wasn't great for 4 button games? Because the first two button are at an angle (like usual on Japanese sticks)? Or because it has 6 face buttons? I can't think of a stick with 4 face buttons..
     
  9. subbie

    subbie Guardian of the Forum

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    Because it's built for VF which is a 3 button fighter. So the center two buttons are arced a little too high on the stick then other sticks.

    It makes it uncomfortable to play with tekken since the 4 button configuration is meant to be more like SF but with only 4 buttons. a 4 button fighter like Soul Calibur is not so bad since it's just a 3 button setup with an extra button. (if any of that makes sense to you). Here are some pictures. They still might not do a clear job of explaining it. It's just something you'd have to feel in person.

    Here is what a VSHG looks like
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    Here is what a VF arcade looks like
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    Here is a proper tekken setup
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  10. subbie

    subbie Guardian of the Forum

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    I should add. I have a JPN Candy cab from capcom and the button setup on the system gives me no problems with 4 button fighters (of any config, Tekken or Soul calibur).
     
  11. 7Force

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    Well, it does make sense, every cabinet with VF I've seen is just a generic one with more than 3 buttons since it doesn't really make sense to have a dedicated VF cabinet anywhere outside Japan I guess. Never used a PS3 Virtua Stick, though. Most SNK fighters are also 4 button...
     
  12. Trenton_net

    Trenton_net AKA SUPERCOM32

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    Mad Catz leaves a sour taste in my mouth from years of them ripping people off. I'm not necessarily saying their current products are crap, but my spidey sense still goes off everytime I hear Mad Catz.

    I'd go with a Hori. I have two Mushihime-Sama Futari Ver 1.5 Hori sticks which use a Seimetsu stick and Hori buttons (I got them at about $90 each). In all honest, while the Hori buttons are not as good as Seimetsu or Sanwa ones, I don't really find it a problem at all. I think it's more about people being picky, and the fact that they die faster than arcade ones. In any event, once the buttons die you can simply replace them with ease since the higher end Hori sticks use quick disconnects.
     
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    subbie Guardian of the Forum

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    Yeah. I wasn't able to find a picture of it but back when VF5 first came out in jpn arcades, there was a special dedicated cab from sega and the VSHG uses the exact same ball & button that was used in that cabinet. So the over all quality on the stick was amazing (minus the lag bug in the first batch, but luckily mine was from the second batch).

    Yeah Most SNK fighters are 4 buttons but they use the NeoGeo 4 button configuration which is more like what you see in Soul Calibur then in Tekken. Tekken was very much a SF setup but with only 4. The reason the orientation mattered was left side is your left attacks, and right is your right attacks.

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    I know for most people all this info does not matter but it does to me because i'm an arcade geek. Like to me a perfect arcade collection for consoles would be one where you can freely select and play any revision of the game. Especially in fighters when it was common for there to be a rev a,b,c,d+.
     
  14. GaijinPunch

    GaijinPunch Lemon Party Organizer and Promoter

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    VF uses a standard button config -- it just uses weird buttons. Wanna play Tekken, add the other button. It's the same as those panels shown.

    EDIT: NVM. That's stupid. o_O

    Thing is, these versions are basically forgotten once they're done. Competitive play is always done w/ the "latest & greatest". If you have a home port and the arcade is upgraded, the home port is basically useless for practice.
     
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    subbie Guardian of the Forum

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    If you do competitive play then yeah but if it's just general play with your friends then it's not always the case. Some of my friends, who I use to play with, had preferences to specific versions of a game.
     
  16. 7Force

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    Yeah, now it makes perfect sense, can't believe I didn't remember how the button layout is for a Neo Geo cab. If you play SNK fighters like that, it's gonna be a problem only having 3 face buttons per row. I play them SF style because it's just easier for me, even though it's technically wrong.
     
  17. CrAzY

    CrAzY SNES4LIFE

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    Thanks everyone for your input! & thanks Solemn Nomad for your honest opinions with you owning so many. Thinking of getting the EX-SE! :thumbsup:

    And yo, Graciano, I don't remember seeing any Arcade sticks in any of the 4 Gamestops around me, but will keep an eye out.
    Could I get a pic of that MVC LE MadCatz tournament edition stick? Never heard of it. :)
     
  18. Solemn Nomad

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    No problem, glad I could help.

    And here is a pic of the MvC 2 TE stick. Same as the SFIV stick with different (and ugly) artwork/color scheme.
     
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  19. graciano1337

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    some minor differences to take note of between the hori and madcatz TE:

    hori uses semitisu, TE uses sanwa
    the TE stick has a stow away compartment for the cable
    hori does not have turbo function
    TE is a little bit heavier but the hori is still plenty heavy
     
  20. Demonatas

    Demonatas That guy

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    I recently picked up an EX-SE on amazon for 92 bucks shipped. Keep your eyes out on there. Personally i think this might be the nicest stick i've ever played on, i love it. The seimitsu stick is nice and tight, and the buttons work and feel great for shmups and fighters keeping me happy.
     
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