remember the M2 'Dungeon' or doom-like 1st person demo ?

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  1. GigaDrive

    GigaDrive Enthusiastic Member

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    does anyone have images or perhaps even video footage of the 3D0 M2 first person 'Dungeon' demo ? also sometimes referred to as the 'Doom' demo. circa 1995-96. This demo was either a pre-rendered sequence or real-time sequence on an SGI workstation, simulating the M2's capabilities.

    more discription: there was a warrior like monster fighting you. I remember it had a shield. I think maybe the monster blocked the players attack (shot or strike with sword) with that shield.

    I rememeber seeing this demo on television and being totally blown away, thinking that M2 games would look like this. The quality of this demo sequence was probably around Dreamcast graphics level, probably more than the real M2 could handle.

    this demo is probably the 2nd most famous demo for the M2. the most famous would be the "M2 Car Demo" aka
    "M2 Racing Demo"


    Now that I've researched this more (thus my editing of this post) I can say that both of those M2 demos (Car and Dungeon) were really simulations of M2 on an SGI workstation. supposedly done on-the-fly, realtime, and not prerendered.


    now If I remember the 1st person Dungeon / Doom-like demo then I'm sure that Assembler must also (I hope!) since he's an M2 collector. :-D



    .....getting desperate.....I think I should post this on rec.games.video.3do and other newsgroups..... don't let me down guys!
     
  2. Purge

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    I've seen pictures but I wouldn't call the console better than dreamcast. Its ability looked significantly better than N64 but not quite as good as DC. I think assembler actually has a working proto and some footage. Just waiting on Yakumos FTP I think : ).
     
  3. Alchy

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    Certainly M2 was nothing close to what GC/Xbox can handle. M2 was 66Mhz PPC 602, GC is 485Mhz (PPC 750-something). M2 could cope with about 750k textured real-world polys/sec. Nice for the time but not anything particularly special, nowhere near DC for example.
     
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    I have some M2 pictures and footage from D2 opening for the M2. It's no where near as good as what a Dreamcast could do but it is better than the Saturn , PSX, N64. Head on over to my site and look under the Movie section for the FTP login details.

    Yakumo
     
  5. VitAmen

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    ...

    " rememeber seeing this and being totally blown away, thinking that M2 games would look like this. the quality was above Dreamcast graphics and probably on par with what Gamecube and Xbox can do today."


    ????????????????
     
  6. cahaz

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    Re: M2 dungeon demo pictures or videos ?

    wrong system man , the M2 is better than the n64 with the expension ram , but it can't compare the 128 bit generation at all.
     
  7. Sneth

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    dual power pc chips?
    that is coming damn close to the dc....
     
  8. Alchy

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    http://nfg.2y.net/games/polystars/
    According to NFG:
     
  9. AntiPasta

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    Some (but not many) screenshots here
     
  10. PrOfUnD Darkness

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    Looks like a Saturn game in high res.



    PD
     
  11. cahaz

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    nah, it's better than the saturn in therms of fx and texture, take a look at it again! ;-)

    i'll search in my old magazines , it showed a power test of the m2 , it looked pretty impressive, i doubt it was made with the real m2 specs though....
     
  12. GigaDrive

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    Look guys, I completely understand that the real M2 hardware was nowhere near Dreamcast capability, let alone PS2, GCN or Xbox.

    I do realize that M2 was more like a beefed up N64.

    what I was saying was, the Dungeon Demo which was most likely pre-rendered (and therefore beyond M2's realtime ability) was closer to what you see on Xbox or Gamecube today.


    I was in bno way suggesting that M2 and its realtime graphics ability was anywhere near current consoles.



    p.s. the twin PowerPC processors of M2 where nowhere near the performance of Dreamcast's single Hitachi SH4.



    the M2's PowerPC's produced something like 132 MFLOPs peak, each, whereas the Dreamcast SH4 produced 1400 MFLOPs (1.4 GFLOps) and sustained 900 MFLOPs.

    M2 could handle around 700,000 texture mapped polygons/sec peak. and 300,000 to 500,000 with gouraud shading, lighting and all features turned on. making M2 significantly more powerful than PS1 or N64 but nowhere near Dreamcast's 3,000,000 to 5,000,000 million polygons.



    ....and still no pictures of that cool M2 Dungeon demo :smt022
     
  13. GigaDrive

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    I've still had no luck whatsoever finding a picture of the M2 'D&D' like Dungeon demo. or even the more famous car demo. anyone out there with M2 footage on tape or even magazine pictures, please respond :-D
     
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    i love to know more about the m2 and made some research in the past, but i've never heard about the dungeon demo, sorry.
     
  15. Paulo

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    Tehres a few pictures on page 5 of the beta pictures sticky...
     
  16. GigaDrive

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    I know. I posted those. they're not of the d&d / dungeon demo i was speaking of....
     
  17. GigaDrive

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    here is a post on rec.games.video.3do about the M2 dungeon demo



    here is the interesting part of another thread
    http://groups.google.com/groups?hl=en&lr=&selm=8AF52FE.1072002CBB.uuout@inno.com
     
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