[REQ] E3 95-07 & TGS 96-07 high-res photos?

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  1. SILENT_Pavel

    SILENT_Pavel Gutsy Member

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    Basically title says all. I really mean photos in high-res, i didn't mean compressed jpeg images with ~512х480 or ~320х128 resolution. I know that only thing you can change is dpi value when scanning photographic paper from old cameras or from photographic film, but still the result can have more quality, than compressed files from the web 1.0 (i mean minimum 300 dpi). If you say, that old cameras can't have quality in their photos, look here:
    http://www.loc.gov/pictures/collection/prok/
    http://www.prokudin-gorsky.org/?lang=en

    Back to the subject:
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    E3 official webpage: http://www.e3expo.com/gallery/
    old copy of E3 webpages: https://web.archive.org/web/19980415000000*/http://e3expo.com
    ^i can't find high-res photos

    old TGS webpage: http://tgs.cesa.or.jp/99autumn/english/index.html
    current TGS webpage: http://expo.nikkeibp.co.jp/tgs/2014/en/
    ^i can't find high-res photos [2]

    I was trying to use google, and i have found some neat stuff from 1998. So i need more stuff, that similar to this:
    https://www.apricot.com/~scanner/e3-1998/e3-1998.05.28.html
    Also rare 240p videos from old E3: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC6O2V2i2DPgjoBgEkMYrldQ/videos

    I was trying to use search on this forums. Unfortunately i have found photos only in low-res.
    http://www.assemblergames.com/forums/showthread.php?9597-E3-2006-Official-Topic
    http://www.assemblergames.com/forums/showthread.php?32798-TGS-from-Quintet-perspective

    p.s. I'm not interested in photos from 2008 year and newer. Mostly interested in 1998-01 years. Thanks.
     
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    I still have my Kodak DC40 from the 90's with floppy and serial cable ;/
     
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    SILENT_Pavel Gutsy Member

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    Okay i understand this, but you sure that they have originals of such old materials? (as E3 1998 photos for example) Anyway I thought that someone from this "aren't professionals" have their 300dpi photos uploaded somewhere on this forums, am i wrong?
     
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    The only people who could take professional quality photos in the mid-Nineties were professional photographers. Digital cameras, even the professional ones, were terrible. The first consumer digital cameras came out in 1995. I think the first was the Casio QV-10, which gave you a 320x240 image from its 250,000 pixel CCD sensor. The above mentioned DC40 came out later in the year, could do 756x504 and was around the £1,000 mark (so $1,500 back then). Sony would have announced PlayStation at $299 at that show, to give you a price comparison. Yes, a CONSUMER grade digital camera would have cost you five PlayStations!

    Most professionals were wary of digital in the Nineties. Those who did use it would have bought the Kodak DCS 100, a Nikon F3 with a 200Mb hard drive slapped on the bottom. It was a 1.3 megapixel device, released in 1991 for about $30,000. It was so expensive, less than 1,000 photographers bought one. I know two local photographers who used the system. [EDIT: actually, the DCS 460 was released in 1995 and was a 6.2MP CCD... but it was $35,000!]

    So... would those 1.3 megapixel photos be the high resolution you're after? Well, I worked with said photographers and had to access archive photos once. After working out how to actually read the files output by the camera, I can say they're not very good by today's standards. So no, they wouldn't. So... you have to turn to film.

    Now, in 1995, SLR cameras were expensive. The only people allowed into E3 were games trade and press. It's unlikely a shop assistant had the funds for an SLR. So you'd be looking at compact camera photos - a camera with probably zero settings. Maybe a flash. Then printed by Truprint, probably on 5"x3" paper. The negs are probably long gone. If they scanned them back then on a home scanner, forget any quality. If they scanned them now, you're still not going to get a great image.

    So, as I said before, we're back to the pro stuff. So your choice is to get old magazines from the time or contact photographers and image archives to see what they have.

    Am I sure they have images... you didn't bother clicking on the link I showed you, then? E3 1995. Atari Jaguar and all! As I expected, they have very few images.

    Best chance is a long-running magazine that was around back then. If they were producing for the web back then (IGN started in 1996), they may have cut corners as they'd be putting up low resolution images anyway. I couldn't say whether IGN had staff photographers or whether they shot film or digital. You could try EGM, but I don't know what material was taken when they moved from Ziff Davis. If they stayed in the same building, you may be in luck. I think they moved out of state, though.
     
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    Wow, thank you very much for such a detailed response. Everything falls into place now. I guess i will start try to learn more about image resize without heavy losses.
     
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    HEX1GON FREEZE! Scumbag

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    They'll sue the user, not the site.
     
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    You can't resize pictures larger without some sort of degradation. You're taking individual pixels and forcing them to occupy the space of several pixels - effectively guessing at what the new pixels should be. You'll have to compromise and have Joe Schmoe's mediocre compact film camera / early digital camera images, or captures from ropey VHS, unfortunately.

    Hopefully. I remember when my friend built a website for a client with images provided by the client. Getty sent the client a bill for using one of their images without permission. The client was like "images? interwebz? huh? talk to my designer, she made the site" - so they sued my friend instead!
     
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    Linking to the stock library or a website that has licensed the images is fine - just don't hotlink the images ;)
     
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