Revolution will not support HD

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  2. Kotodama

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    Is it me or are IGN's articles long-winded?

    Meh, Nintendo hasn't revealed all it's cards yet, so it's hard to say if that will be a bad thing for them.
     
  3. ASSEMbler

    ASSEMbler Administrator Staff Member

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    Well that's a biggie for me, I just blew about 2g on a hdtv, so I guess revolution is going to be some super cheap, RF adapter bundled, pokemon/mario toy system with maybe ten good serious games, just like gamecube.

    I guess it's going to become "my first console"
     
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    That can't be right. I think that's got to be the stupidest fucking move on their part. I'm with Assembler -- just blew 2g's on an HDTV. The upside was Gamecube games in progressive scan... how ironic.
     
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    well. that just chaps my ass.
     
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    Whoa... that would be a seriously stupid decision.
    It wouldn't affect me (I'll have an old RCA-Capable CRT flat screen until it craps out - as I'm broke anyway) - but I'm sure it'd affect a huge chunk of console buyers. I hope this is not a final decision and only a rumour of sorts...
     
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    They should just bundle it with a pair of fucking rabbit ears and make it 100% mediocre
     
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    That won't mean dick though. If they don't support HD then the VGA output will probably just be plain old 640x480.
     
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    Good. Nintendo has been in the hardware business for two generations too long. Maybe this will be the straw that forces them to reconsider their development model and go the way of Sega: software only.

    What we really need is a new Atari console ;)
     
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    I'll be more pissed off about this once I get an HDTV. :)
     
  12. AntiPasta

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    ah, High Definition, I thought you referred to Hard Disk. Well, I couldn't care less, HDTV has still a long way to go before it takes hold in Europe, and I don't see the need for it really. Sue me.
     
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    Truer words have never been spoken.

    Should they name it after a cat, or make it the 10400? I'd love it, with the Atari rainbow logo and the boxy but sexy build of the 7800 - and 80s color scheme, and joysticsk... man, it would rock.
    Now that Retro's in (the tendence, not the Board member who I haven't seen in a while) - an Atari console could even be a successful product!

    Is the Revolution going to come with one of those awful TV-Game switches?

    To tell you the truth, I didn't know the PS2 and Xbox and Gamecube (or PS3 and 360) had HDTV support.
    I've yet to see one of those HDTV suckers in action, actually.
    I guess, in the first world, it's probably a big issue not to have support, but knowing Nintendo, they'll make an adapter later on like the SP Headphones. They always limit their console by one key factor, after all.
     
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    I dont care.
    Like i would ever have a HDTV :smt042
     
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    I don't think it could be so bad. Without a doubt it'll support 480p. The gamecube does, and the revolution will too. but how many americans have an HDTV? Most likely less than 10%. 4-5years time when the revolution is near the end of its life, perhaps it'll be more 30-40%, still not half of all tvs. And in Europe at least, its currently probably less than 1%

    Now, programming for Hd requires more work. Your textures have gotta be higher res, and its generally more arty work, as you can't have any small faults which would not be noticeable in low-res. How many companies are going to do a hell of a lot more work, for less than half their possible audience? Now remember nintendo said that they are looking to make the revolution cheap to dev on - bingo - this is going to reduce staffing costs considerably.

    Nintendo want the revolution to be a cheap console, and since they can't compete on graphics with PS3/X360, they won't. What they will compete on however, is a large number of fun, easy to play games. Who cares if they're 60 gazillion pixels or 10 gazillion? So long as its a good game, thats all that matters.

    Finally, I think this may have been a communication problem - it is not Hd will not be possible, it is hd will not be supported- What I believe is the case is that the revolution will be capable of outputting at least 720p, however it will not be required like it will be for the PS3 and X360.
     
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    Let's be honest here, the thing is probably only going to have NES/SNES/N64 games for it as it is, and do you really want DuckHunt in 1080?
     
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    No one cares.

    Only Americans really have HDTV......and not too many of them.

    They sell them in the Pioneer shop neer me..........they get HDTV broadcasts from Belgium...great rofl.
     
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    Hey... just b/c you backwards Europeans are living in your caves, don't rain on our parades. Games is about the only reason I got an HDTV. Shit. Go have fun with your RGB... you've got that, let us have something.
     
  19. AntiPasta

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    Fun fact: back in the day, Nintendo claimed the N64 would support HD....
     
  20. hl718

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    and 640x480 = 480p. ;)

    Fact of the matter is that most cheap HDTVs sold in the US these days can barely produce real HDTV signals. Only the highest of the high end can natively display 1080i and most lower end "HDTV" sets don't have native 720p support. These sets will claim 480p/1080i support but even then, they don't really have 1080 lines of resolution, instead the number usually hovers around 520.

    This is how the PlayStation 2 "cheats" with Gran Turismo 4 to make your TV *think* it is getting a 1080i signal as the PlayStation 2 is not capable of outputting a native HDTV signal (it can only handle 480p). By taking the 480p signal and increasing the vertical resolution slightly (from 480 to 520) and then setting an interlaced flag the TV will simply double the lines and run in 1080i mode. The problem of course is that the game is simply using the 480p textures so you don't really get much of a benefit. Heh.

    Of the current consoles, only the Xbox can run in HD resolutions and even then very few games actually use it. While the next gen promises to be different, in today's market if you have 480p on your TV you're golden.

    -hl718
     
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