RROD (0020) fix

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  1. bobzee

    bobzee [undefined]

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    Here's my fix which doesn't involve towels, heatguns or DIY reflow machines.
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    Had my first RROD (0020) yesterday, not bad considering the 360 was pre-owned, and i've had it for well over a year.

    I bought a faulty 360 a while ago because I like trying out mods on broken shit, that way if I mess it up, nothing's lost. I decided to use the spare CPU heatsink from it on the GPU.

    I gave the board a good clean. The RAM chips on the top had what looked like dried puddles of flux around them, so I used a spray solvent to tidy it up, and blasted some under the CPU & GPU for good measure.
    Removed the old thermal paste, polished the CPU, GPU and heatsinks with a microfibre cloth before re-pasting and fitting them.

    I let a small amount of flux run under the GPU, not sure whether that would help fix any cold solder joins.

    After gently preheating the the board in the oven, I switched it on with a fan cooling only the CPU, leaving the GPU to cook.
    I'm not sure what temperature would be dangerous for the GPU, I switched it off once the heatsink became too hot to touch for more than a second, which was around 15-20 minutes.

    I left it to cool down then switched it back on and it worked. I've tried it this morning after leaving it off overnight and everything seems ok for now.

    I have a cooling kit which I never use, so I pulled the fans from it, which fitted nicely on the back of the heatsinks, and are wired to run at full speed. They're held in place with sellotape, i'll need to find a better way of securing them.
    I've also covered the top of the heatsinks, to make sure that air is being pulled through full width of the fins.

    Here's the chemicals I used which cost £20:
    Akasa TIM Clean thermal paste remover
    Akasa AK-455 thermal paste
    Servisol Aero Klene 50
    Flux Pen

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    The only problem with the GPU heatsink is, the DVD-ROM won't fit in the case. Gives me an idea about using an HD-DVD case to house it once I put it all back together again.

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    As long as it lasts until I get paid, i'm happy :)
     
  2. ASSEMbler

    ASSEMbler Administrator Staff Member

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    I'm sure running flux under the board prior to heating it is a great idea.
     
  3. WTVR

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    Looks like scotch tape on the heat sinks...
     
  4. bobzee

    bobzee [undefined]

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    Yeah, it was plastic taped on top of the heatsinks to make sure the air wasn't gettting sucked in through the top while the case was open.

    Those fans were a bit shit, so i've wired the stock fans back up and fixed the shroud to fit. A lot noisier, but it runs cooler.

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  5. TmEE

    TmEE Peppy Member

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    I would use an heatgun rather than any of the cooking methods... 2 minutes of heatgun and you're ready, less chance of heat damage to the chip...
     
  6. bobzee

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    I'm not exactly sure what temperature to take it up to with a heatgun, or the best preheat temperature/time. There's lots of conflicting info on the net.

    Does anyone know the ideal temperature/time for preheating/heatgunning it?

    Although it's still working just now, i'm not sure how long it'll last.
     
  7. jccochez

    jccochez that's why i'm here.

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    Well, to be honnest, don't expect it to last for years... yet I think it can work for months, if you did things right.
     
  8. hrahn

    hrahn Robust Member

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    I fixed mine using the heatgun method, you need atleast 170°C to melt the solder, rather some °C more. Knowing that the electrolytic capacitors don't like this much heat at all, I shielded them with aluminium foil - or so I thought.
    In fact, the heat got trapped under the foil due to a bad arrangement by myself and shortly after starting to work I heard the famous snap, crackle&pop of exploding capacitors under it. You know, they work on magic smoke - if the smoke gets out, the capacitor is kaput and you need a new one.
    That's precisely what I did, replaced them with new ones (all of them while I was at it), even got the exact same values, albeit with a more narrow tolerance rating.

    What can I say other that my xbox has survived like this for over a year now, works like a charm again.
     
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