S-Video

Discussion in 'Sega Dreamcast Development and Research' started by erfg12, Aug 29, 2015.

  1. erfg12

    erfg12 Rising Member

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    Is there any S-Video cables that are good for the Dreamcast? I don't know if I would want to go with a VGA box as some games don't work with it, and that kinda scares me. But the s-video cables are all cheap and have terrible reviews on amazon and ebay. Can I make my own? Is the VGA box not really going to make some games incompatible?

    My Dreamcast I got from ebay and it included one of those knock off composite cables. The picture quality is TERRIBLE! What can I do?
     
  2. TerdFerguson

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    Most games work with it. Some do not, those that don't i think can be overridden by a boot disc, or installing a custom bios that bypasses the vga check and boots anyway http://www.dreamcast-talk.com/forum/viewtopic.php?p=82767#p82767

    VGA cables work good too, no need for the box. But I'm unsure if there's a (noticeable) quality difference between the two, maybe someone could clear that up. But i think a cable and not a box is $12.95. You could also look into the option of RGB/SCART-->HDMI. Supposedly that's the best option. Though i don't see why VGA-->HDMI wouldn't be somewhat higher quality

    Hope that helps
     
  3. LeHaM

    LeHaM Site Soldier

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    Not all games work in VGA mode!

    as mentioned, RGB upscaled is the best option here and pretty cheap
     
  4. erfg12

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    If you use a VGA cable to HDMI do you underscan/overscan issues?
     
  5. MonkeyBoyJoey

    MonkeyBoyJoey 70's Robot Anime GEPPY-X (PS1) Fanatic

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    I recommend skipping S-Video all together. Use VGA for the Dreamcast. If you run into a game that doesn't support VGA, use RGB SCART and a SCART to HDMI converter. RGB SCART is much better than S-Video but most of our American TVs don't support it without a converter. If you are into modded consoles, there is a Dreamcast HDMI mod coming out soon. It will be better than the native VGA output.
     
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    MonkeyBoyJoey 70's Robot Anime GEPPY-X (PS1) Fanatic

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    No, they would not work. You need a Dreamcast VGA cable or VGA box. RGB SCART require a SCART to HDMI converter.
     
  8. TerdFerguson

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    Essentially you'd just be upscaling the lower quality video as compared to VGA or SCART. It *might* look better than composite but that's not saying much compared to the quality of VGA or SCART. The outputs from VGA and SCART are higher fidelity outputs than composite to begin with
     
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    Most vga boxes that are actually boxes, including the official ones and the aftermarket clear ones, have both vga and svideo, and composite too.

    Honestly, most games work with vga and can be fixed to.
     
  10. TerdFerguson

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    Yes the boxes are handy if you run across a game that doesn't support VGA, you just switch it to composite/svideo. Rather than plugging in another cable set. Also most MIL-CD versions of games that don't support VGA have the lockout overridden
     
  11. darcagn

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    Not all games support RGB either, so VGA is still the best option.
     
  12. tknjin

    tknjin Spirited Member

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    you could also use the vga box that one of the members here made. It was made by beharius, and it is able to do vga in both 31/15 khz, so both vga and rgb. I have tested it with games such as gunbird 2, and it works like a charm. The only drawback is that you have to make sure your television set is able to support 15khz because I have a 32 in samsung hd tv and it does not do 15 khz whatsoever. I then tried it on one of my older monitor set ups which is NEC and it played it just fine.
     
  13. erfg12

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    In the case of games that do not support VGA, what I would recommend is burning yourself a Codebreaker disc, and using that as a boot method. Codebreaker automatically tries to force VGA onto games that don't initially support it, thus doing the work for you. These are the games that do NOT support VGA by any means;

    21 - Two One
    Airforce Delta
    Caesar's Palace 2000
    Cho Hatsumei Boy Kanipan: Bousou Robot no Nazo
    D Vine Luv
    Dance Dance Revolution 2nd Mix
    Dance Dance Revolution Club Version
    Dancing Blade Katteni Momo Tenshi II: Tears of Eden
    deSPIRIA
    Dino Crisis (menu can be force booted, but actual game crashes)
    E.S
    ECW Anarchy Rulz
    ECW Hardcore Revolution
    Eisei Meijin III: Game Creator Yoshimura Nobuhiro no Zunou
    Imperial no Taka: Fighter of Zero
    Jikkyo Powerful Pro Yakyu: Dreamcast Edition
    Jinsei Game For Dreamcast
    Jissen Pachislo Hissyouhou @ VPachi
    July
    King of Fighters '99 Dream Match
    King of Fighters '99 Evolution
    Kita He - Photo Memories
    Konohana 2: Todoka Nai Requiem
    Konohana: True Report
    L.O.L - Lack of Love
    Langrisser Millennium
    Last Blade 2
    Mahjong Taikai II Special
    MTV Skateboarding
    Nanatsu no Hikan Senritsu no Hohoemi
    Nijyuei
    Nobunaga no Yabou: Reppuuden
    Nobunaga no Yabou: Shouseiroku
    Plasma Sword
    Psychic Force 2012
    Psychological Game
    Rayblade
    Ring Terror's Realm
    Rune Caster
    Sangokushi VI With Power Kit
    Soul Fighter
    Sunrise Eiyuutan
    Tanaka Torahiko no Urutoraryu Syogi Ibisyaanaguma Hen
    TNN Hardcore Heat
    Winning Post 4 Program 2000
    World Neverland 2 Plus: The Waktic Republic of Pluto
    WWF Attitude
    Yukyu Gensokyoku 3: Perpetual Blue
    Yumebaken '99 Internet
     
  15. -=FamilyGuy=-

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    A member here, @japanese_cake has made a few specific patches for some of those games, check his livejournal blog.
     
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