Yeah, what the hell is wrong with those people? I mean, how DARE they be outraged that there's sexual content in games that further exacerbates a culture in which women are objectified and sex sells anything. Christ, what a bunch of tightasses they are.
is it just me or are these assholes going about it the wrong way? A smart thing to do, instead of hiding this thing would be to promote the hell out of it. Since the game has been on the market for a while, it should be made a greatest hit, but heres the thing. re-release 2 versions of the game: one M17 version with the Hot Coffee code completely written out, and one AO version with the Hot Coffee code enabled without aid of GS or AR. And since the game is only 20 bucks, it'd wouldn't be such a big deal to buy another copy. To be honest, I believe it is very stupid to release an edited version and the unedited (AO) one especially when you are gonna need a game enhancer for the part everyone (well, maybe not everyone) wants to see. Makes sense huh?
Hah, my dad walked into my room the other night... "Do you play that Grand Theft Auto: Las Vegas City?" "I have 'Vice City', but I never play it" "Did you know there was a sex scene in that game?" "Oh, you're thinking of San Andreas..." "Yeah, whatever. There's SEX in there!" "...So?" As everyone else said, the mindless violence is completely ignored once the sex scene was discovered. This country can be retarded sometimes...
I think the objectification of women was clearly noted once there were prostitutes in the game that could refill your health through sex and then be killed to get your money back. There already was sex in the game - not graphically, though. There were graphic killings, which I think, make objectification of the female gender, the lesser of two great evils. Sex wouldn't sell that much if these people would stop making it out to be something more obscene than graphic and senseless violence. They're not tightasses as much as they are hypocrites, and panderers.
Xerdo you dont understand: if they let just a tit (or something like) in a game, this yank kids are goin to marturbate to the death :death :smt043 I didnt install the hotcoffe, cuz is a lot of job for some crappy erotic scenes that arent worse than the sex you can see in Niptuck (fox) or the Sopranos (HBO). I`ll just type "tits" on google and presto! too bad the internet didnt exist when we were kids :smt009 Now i know I`ll never go to the midwest :smt042
Whats going to happen to the copies that already have "M" on them? Is this game getting rereleased or what?!
Stores are going to pull all the M-rated versions off the shelf. Yeah, Rockstar is going to take out the AO-rated material to make it suitable for M-rated.
because it's a video game, and bashing video games is the way to go in heaven, remember? you should have told him he already had sex at least once to talk with you a this moment, and then explained how it worked and that sex is natural and that god wouldn't have created sexual organs if he thought it was so distugting and evilish. :smt043 more seriously, i wonder what he responded after... bomb the irakians, and reveal pictures of sadam after his capture (wich break the geneve convention rule) but don't show a tit covered by a star on tv though!
I'm not entirely sure what you mean by that, but I sure hope it wasn't some sort of veiled stab at both organized religions and people who just plain have some dignity in what they consider entertainment - both of which, I might add, are allowed opinions JUST as valid as the one that sex and violence in games are no big deal. RIGHT? Or is hypocrisy rearing its ugly head again?
Just to change topics a little, anyone know a site with the Jay Leno clip where they were saying Mrs. Clinton banned San Andreas, & in the clip, you see Bill Clinton's face instead of the character in the game. Hehehe
Now, man, let's keep this peaceful. Sex and violence in games are a big deal. I'm with you on that one. That's why there's the ESRB ratings. These ratings become worthless when vendors refuse to carry AO but still sell M to minors. AO and M are there precisely to keep it within an adult's responsibility to explain this and keep kids aware before they're directly exposed to material inappropiate for them without a parent's guidance. Or a trustworthy adult. So what should happen is - if you don't like the stuff, you don't buy it. I fucking hate GTA, so I didn't get it. I'm not very keen on senseless violence and sex just to sell a crappy game. If the violence is necessary (Think Devil May Cry, Ace Combat, Metal Gear Solid 2), I'm all for a ratings system that doesn't let my 13 year old nephew get this game without being an adult or having one to explain the contents to him and guide him. I am not for an all-out politicalization of ratings and outrage for political rate of some pundits at the cost of developers' freedom of expression - just because vendors refuse to enforce ratings and shun the AO rating for their own public image. You as an adult have a right to buy whatever you want - because you have the knowledge and common sense to understand. That's why there's ratings, and that's why kids should not be able to get M or AO rated games, but adults should if they choose to. What outraged me here is the weird priority. I don't know, but I think sex is really something that every human being experiences and witnesses in many ways throughout his/her life - but graphical killings are not. So then why do these people get SO worked up over sex in a game if they didn't immediately give the game the AO over senseless violence and gore? I mean, yeah, Sex is a delicate theme, and I think it's up for responsible adults to explain it to their kids before they learn a horribly askew and commercialised half-truth from the media - but this same half-truth applies to violence even more. Violence is much more delicate than sex in my opinion, because sex is about loving one another and violence is not (unless they're somehow combined in someone's very private life). You as a responsible adult have your tastes and your dignity. You have decided. Great for you. I think every other responsible adult should exercise this right. Everyone's dignity and tastes will differ, but we will not let the government, interest groups (that might or might not be religious), or anyone else decide them for us. Who knows our dignity and taste more than us? Nobody. That's, at least, what keeps alarming me about this - the scapegoating of one exaggerated example of a particular media, to try to regulate every other one of the examples to the narrow views of an individual or organisation, for the political gain of itself, disguised as the caring for the children's wellbeing. It's up to parents to care for that. It's up to vendors AND parents to enforce ESRB ratings and really care for kid's media consumption habits, and guide them in reality, instead of simply going after those who write the media. People, like you do, should take an active interest in their own life, consumption habits, and care for those in their direct responsibility - considering differences of thought. You know what you like, you excercise your freedom. I respect that like you have no idea. So, In that, we agree, sir.
I sure hope you weren't serious with that remark, because if you were that has to be the stupidest thing I've ever heard.
So how much do you all think the original NTSC-U/C GTA: San Andreas for PS2, XBOX, & PC cost now that it's no more?
Couldn't people start looking at the whole thread before posting anything?! Look, i already said to GSL to calm down because it was a sarcasm. Is anything bad with this? can't people say things in those thread without getting bashed to death?do i need to explain my sarcasm? now politicians don't fight ''heatens'' to gain ''power'' anymore, they fight video games, and brainwash people that video games are ''heatens'', something from another belief, or something'' coming right from satan'' if you like. And yeah, talking about a religion here, about heaven, satan, god, or heatens is symbolical AND at first sarcastic, bash me on this if you need to. people bash on everything for nothing these days, and this also include politicians. Chilling out.
Xerdo Pwerko, you make a good point, but you also raise the question: Why is everyone getting so upset over the change from a M to an AO rating of GTA:SA? Everyone is nearly in agreeance that the game doesn't belong in the hands of minors, so what's the problem with a change in rating to even further emphasize the graphic nature of the games? Most people that are able to purchase the games with the suggested age of the M rating will still have no problems purchasing them if they are switched to AO. What's more, something as serious as an AO rating might actually give stupid parents a reason to pause when buying the game, instead of dismissing it as just another M-rated title. And I really don't see why everyone is getting so upset about all the politicians and whatnot pushing for an AO rating - it's not like they're trying to ban the game. Don't worry, your right to play shitty games is not being trampled on. They're just changing the damned rating. Maybe, instead of being so up in arms about the rating switch, people could think, "Hey, these politicans are holding this company accountable for its content and changing the rating in a way that will completely guarantee this doesn't get into the hands of kids who should see it. Now shitty parents will only have themselves to blame if their kids end up with this!"
While I agree with you on the "keeping the games out of children's hands" part, the thing about AO is that it's just a scandalous way for politicians to get to "solve" problems that are not a pressing issue, while making a name for themselves and getting voters by generalizing videogames as a whole, obscene medium. This endangers the freedom of speech in the industry, just because of the combination between shitty companies wanting to sell, and shitty politicians trying to garner publicity. I would not give a crap about the rating shift itself, had it proven to be because it is really necessary (which it is) - but the kind of ultra-moralistic outrage these politicians push is almost textbook Machiavelli. These politicians don't really give a fuck about the rating systems, and neither do vendors. Politicians just push for the AO rating for publicity and it shows. It's the sort of thing that makes you exclaim "come on!" in an annoyed manner. And, come on, parents should show some personal responsibility even with M titles... And so should vendors. I'm upset about the skewed priorities (sex gets a scandalous AO, murder gets an M - let's cry outrage to get publicity while not solving our nation's true social and political problems!), the hypocritical hunger for publicity, and the scapegoating and backlash this will cause to my favourite medium, even if I truly hate the GTA franchise. I also hold rockstar accountable for its irresponsibility, but I think the code is inaccessible without cheat devices on Consoles, right? The game has serious violence. It should have been AO from the beginning, and it would have if the ratings board had a little common sense and vendors could still profit from the (legitimate) sale of AO titles, meaning screening from ID instead of mindlessly selling for everyone. Since politicians and corporations could endanger free speech and start a witchhunt in our favourite medium, maybe this is a little bit worrying - after all, nothing will stop them in the search for publicity. And finally, the politicians are just giving Rockstar themselves more publicity to make crappy games, and also wannabe rockstar companies to make gangsta games and whatnot. This might create a generalization of the industry that I might not be too comfortable dealing with.
