Saturn VideoCD card problem

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  1. mdmx

    mdmx Familiar Face

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    I bought a Sega Saturn Video CD card some time ago. I tested it with the Movie Evil Dead 3, which was released on VideoCD. Unfortuantely some green glitches apear at the bottom of the screen during the movie.

    I have also seen those glitches in Yakumo's movie:
    Saturn playing a Video CD
    http://www.segagagadomain.com/movie-pages2/vcd.htm

    Is this a general problem with the Sega Saturn Video CD card or does it apear only in some movies?

    btw, I've tested Evil Dead 3 also in my Doctor V64 which plays the movie fine.
     
  2. ASSEMbler

    ASSEMbler Administrator Staff Member

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    The cards can be picky, it basically has no tolerance for errors.

    VideoCD is meant to be a cheap sub-vhs format. It sort of is
    expected that the quality will be substandard.
     
  3. WolverineDK

    WolverineDK music lover

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    And you can burn video CD´s via nero burning rom. And the easiest format you can use with video CD´s are the mpg files, not mpeg files.
     
  4. Trenton_net

    Trenton_net AKA SUPERCOM32

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    Actually, the green bars at the bottom is because your video is probably PAL or NTSC and you don't have the correct card for playback. Some card versions say they support both PAL/NTSC video (like the JVC/Victor cards), but they don't do PAL support properly. I think that was corrected in the v3.0 cards.

    But this is all from memory. All my VCD cards are packed away.
     
  5. Yakumo

    Yakumo Pillar of the Community *****

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    Yes, it all depends upon the card. Saying that I think my Monkey Video CDs are bad because they mess up in the PC as well. I have a few video CDs of the Simpsons that I made years ago on Nero and they all play fine. make sur you are running the correct card for your machine. It's said that each Saturn needs the card made for it's machine such as the Hitachi card for the Hi-Saturn, The Victor card for the V-Saturn and the Sega card for the standard Saturn.

    Yakumo
     
  6. kendrick

    kendrick Enthusiastic Member

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    mdmx, are you sure that your Video CD card is a legitimate one? I can't speak for anybody else, but I ended up going through a couple of bootleg cards before I managed to buy a first-party Sega unit from a store I trusted. I can't say for certain that my experience is representative, but I know for a fact there are fake cards floating around still.
     
  7. Divine Evolution

    Divine Evolution Peppy Member

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    That may be, I only have a Victor VCD Card that I keep in my V-Saturn...
    That said I've played dozens of different VCDs (usually in XVCD or KVCD no less) and haven't seen an artifact yet. To be honest before I got an HDTV it was hard to tell the difference between a well encoded VCD and DVD...

    ~Krelian
     
  8. cez

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    I've been using a Victor card in a white standard Saturn with commercial NTSC Video CDs for some time without any problems.
     
  9. mdmx

    mdmx Familiar Face

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    I have a japanese Victor Video CD card. Model No RG-VC1. My Sega Saturn is a japanese model 1 unit.

    However Evil Dead 3 is the German release, PAL:
    http://www.ofdb.de/view.php?page=fassung&fid=515&vid=24797

    Anyway I never had problems with video-cds on my Doctor V64, so I was a bit disappointed that the Sega Saturn does a worse job than an old backup unit;-)
     
  10. dj898

    dj898 Site Supporter 2015

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    From memory RG-VC1 is the virtual identical copy to the original Sega VCD card - means it's rather crap. ^ ^

    You need RG-VC3 which is the latest version and from what I remember the best one to have...

    Yea it's been a long time since I used so if I talked porkies please ignore what I said~ ^ ^
     
  11. Trenton_net

    Trenton_net AKA SUPERCOM32

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    Yep, you need a v3.0 (RG-VC3) card. A simple test is to play a PAL VCD in your Saturn. If the extra scanlines in your PAL video gets cut off with green macroblocks showing up, then you know its the buggy card and not your CDs.

    Again, from memory My RG-VC2 card simply cut off PAL video sources and created macroblocks, while my RG-VC3 did the conversion properly.
     
  12. ASSEMbler

    ASSEMbler Administrator Staff Member

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    The pirate vcd card I have here is so damn awful it's great. Blocky goodness. good catch on the PAL/ntsc issue I forgot about all that.
     
  13. Yakumo

    Yakumo Pillar of the Community *****

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    That explains why my Monkey VCDs have green blocks. They are all PAL running on a Japanese Saturn. I should try them in my Hi-Saturn with the Hitachi card to see if that works better.

    Yakumo
     
  14. mdmx

    mdmx Familiar Face

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    thanks for the help. btw, which games make use of the Video-CD card?
     
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    kendrick Enthusiastic Member

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    Gungriffon and Lunar: Silver Star Complete come to mind right away. I'll go poke through my collection and see which games have the logo on the package.
     
  16. dj898

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    Only JPN Gungriffon uses the VCD though...
     
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  17. Trenton_net

    Trenton_net AKA SUPERCOM32

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    Lunar MPEG edition uses the VCD card. Vatlva also uses it too as I recall.
     
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