SCPH-1002 not reading all discs

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  1. JackAz!

    JackAz! Peppy Member

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    Hey guys,

    Whipped out the trusty PAL modded Playstation 1 last night after copying a few alpha/beta builds of games to find that it wouldn't read past the black playstation screen. I tried an NTSC original of Final Fantasy 9 and it worked fine. It then wouldn't read a PAL game I had. Then it wouldn't read anything. Then it would. I couldn't get any backups working though, no matter what speed I burnt at.

    The laser is most likely on it's way out so I've ordered a new one. Is there any other reason why it wouldn't read them? I only used cheapo CD-Rs. Can someone shed some light?

    Cheers

    Edit: Can someone move to the Repairs forum? Had too many tabs open and started the thread in the wrong place :/
     
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    I lol'd, but out of seriousness i have used some pretty bad quality CD-Rs in the past and they worked fine. 100x series you may have to do some tuning
    http://dogbreath.de/PS1/LaserAlignment/Laser.html

    but i would go buy one of those 1 peice CD-Rs you can buy from a convince/dollar store that sells name branded cd-rs first before trying to tune the laser assembly . Theres a dollar store around me that sells vertibam single discs for 1$ and vertibam is a good name for CD-Rs right next to Taiyo Yuden (JVC)
     
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  4. JackAz!

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    Hey, it was 9PM and I was feeling lazy alright!? :p



    Yeah I remember using the shittiest of CD-Rs on my 75XX series with no problems at all. I'll grab a couple of good ones on the way home tonight and see how i go.

    Thanks guys.
     
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    Attempted adjusting the laser pots with an analogue multimeter as my digital one is at work. Managed to get a slow burnt cheapo CD-R to boot among a few other random discs. Looks like that was the problem though, I'll do it properly tomorrow night and post back my results. Looking good though :)
     
  6. Bad_Ad84

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    Or its just you are using cheapo cd's. Just because it works when you tweak the laser, doesnt mean the cheapy discs arent the underlying cause.
     
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  7. JackAz!

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    Yeah I know, I know. :p
     
  8. HEX1GON

    HEX1GON FREEZE! Scumbag

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    Yep, crap CD-Rs stay far, far away from them.

    When I was young I'd buy 50 cd-rs from $2 stores. So much trouble to get a game to boot from those shit rings.

    Get some good CD-Rs, TDK and HP ones from K-mart are pretty good. Try those.
     
  9. Xeauron

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    Verbatims have always been my disc of choice back in the day for backups. Though they're only available to me online now which is a bit of a pain in the arse. I've used Sony CD-Rs for a lot of my games @ 1x and they seem to work fine.
     
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    another plus here for verbatim discs, sadly they dont seem as good as they were years ago but still better than most

    another point is that its a 1002 and as such (unless im mistaken) is the earliest model and as such is bound to be on its way out now as its so old, most 1002 i have fixed in the past tended to die after a couple of years of good use, again always the laser, not sure but i think they changed something about the assemblies after the 1002 models but its so long ago i cant remember for sure
     
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    Modern verbs are just rebrands of other crap. You need to buy very specific verb types (audio azo or something off the top of my head)?

    This because most people have no clue about CDR quality and why verbs cost more than other discs = so they go for the cheap options, which means the good stuff stops getting bought.

    1002 laser unit used plastic for the (rails?) and warped. Later they switched to metal.
     
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    ok did a little digging and it seems its the Singapore Verbatim discs that are preferred (some are made in India and these apparently are lower quality compared to the Singapore ones) however the discussion was about DVD-R and not CD-R but i would imagine the same would apply

    cheers Ad, i knew something changed with the lasers but couldnt put my finger on it
     
  13. Xeauron

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    Well the only Verbs I've bought recently are CD-RWs for when my retro rig arrives so I can't comment on how well they work in PSX any more (cheap or otherwise).

    And yeah they moved the laser from the top left to the right, away from the power supply as (like Bad said) the power supply warms the plastic rails up and warps them in earlier models with prolonged use.
     
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  14. Mystical

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    didnt think re-writable discs worked in PSX's? - again not sure been a while lol
     
  15. Xeauron

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    No I mean the CD-RWs are for my retro PC, not PSX. They don't (or at least they didn't) work in PSXs at all. :) Don't know if they made CD-RWs which work in older and standard CD players.
     
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  16. Mystical

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    ah gotcha!
     
  17. JackAz!

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    The best I could find this morning were Kodaks, and that was sitting on my desk at work. The two stores I checked had nothing but crappy no-name brands. Laaaame.
     
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    Better than no-name, give it a shot
     
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    Just to update:

    I tried a few other brands and had no success, had issues getting it to read originals.
    My new laser that I ordered when I started the thread arrived in the mail. Swapped it over and it booted shitty CD-Rs without any tweaking. I'm a happy camper. Thanks guys :)
     
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