SEGA CD model 2 not working

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  1. CZroe

    CZroe Rising Member

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    I have a model 2 SEGA CD that doesn't work. I found it in this condition at a thrift store long ago. When I power on the Genesis, all I get is a black screen. It is my understanding that this is often an issue with fuses.

    The PCB doesn't look at all like the ones I saw online many years ago at gamesx.com. In particular, there are nothing like the fuses I see on the other versions of the main board. Mine has a small black box that I assume has the fuse but the arrangement is a bit different. Also, the silk-screened PCB doesn't mark the component locations as simply "F" like I would expect fuses to be marked.

    Is that the fuse? Should I replace it or bypass it? What should I replace them with?
     
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  2. l_oliveira

    l_oliveira Officer at Arms

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    Post a high resolution picture of the mainboard, please.
     
  3. APE

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    Never bypass fuses. If they blow they blew for a reason.

    Hehehe, blew.
     
  4. CZroe

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    Will do. Gotta go find it.

    I know, but often that reason is that their tolerance is too low.
     
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    Sega cd Model 2 FUSE LOACTION

    Here is where it is on a Model 2. This is a PAL one, but my NTSC J is in the same place with the same number.




    [​IMG]
     
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    In this case the tolerance isn't that low. They blow easily but that may be exactly what is needed for a reason.
     
  7. CZroe

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    My PCB is very different. I have a black plastic box near that area labeled "FL301" and it may contain a modular fuse but I don't know how to open it. The only "F301" on the PCB is printed underneath very near that component. All the other "F" components on my board look like black vertically-mounted axial lead components that I would confuse for diodes if I didn't know better (no band on one end). I have FB101, FB501, FB503, FB504, and FB505. In case they are related, I also have L509 and L403 SMT components with what may be an unlabeled one between L403 and IC301 (IC301 looks like a VRM connected to the big heat sink).

    Pictures here:
    https://plus.google.com/photos/103592104676205397514/albums/5835741523585193953?banner=pwa

    My disc drive has a different hub and connects with a single flat cable.

    The model number is listed as MK4102A.
     
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  8. l_oliveira

    l_oliveira Officer at Arms

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    F301 at photo "IMG_20130120_225235.jpg" (SMD type fuse lol)

    Edit: FB means Ferrite Bead if you're wondering about that ...
     
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  9. sonicdude10

    sonicdude10 So long AG and thanks for all the fish!

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    To make this simpler, the fuse is surrounded by red box here:

    [​IMG]
     
  10. CZroe

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    Thanks. In all the PCBs I've seen in the past it was on top so it didn't even occur to me that it might be there. I was sure it was labeling the component above it. Anyway, considering how often these fail, could I install a fuse holder and extend the leads or would that be a bad idea (attenuation and line noise)? What spec should I replace it with? Any 2.5A fuse? Fast blow? Slow blow?

    Full resolution image:
    http://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-p...AAAAaM/ZbXIzwb9OPA/s0/IMG_20130120_225235.jpg
     
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    sonicdude10 So long AG and thanks for all the fish!

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    Standard fuse with extended lines will be fine. I did that to my model. I have both the one in image I edited and the one further up. As for fuse, standard 2.5 amp fast blow is best option. Otherwise any 2.5 amp fuse will work.
     
  12. CZroe

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    Thanks. Now I just hope I didn't mess up whatever is under that black plastic cap when I was trying to remove it. :)
     
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    sonicdude10 So long AG and thanks for all the fish!

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    That would be a diode, hence the "D301" designation. It should be fine if the shell didn't get busted.

    It is important for protecting against reverse current.
     
  14. CZroe

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    That's not the component I was worried about. It says "FL301" and seems to be right there where F301 was supposed to be on the top side. It had four slotted holes that reminded me of the dust cap on a fat Playstation 2 laser, some versions of which required feeling in similar holes to free latches and remove the cap, so I was probing a bit with some wide heavy-duty wood staples.
     
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  15. sonicdude10

    sonicdude10 So long AG and thanks for all the fish!

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    As long as nothing seems to be broken on the inside it SHOULD be fine. I can't guarantee anything though.
     
  16. Shane McRetro

    Shane McRetro Blast Processed Since 199X

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    Never hurts to try! Unless you are scared of small house fires? :biggrin-new:
    (I've only nearly had one, once - thanks Mega PC)
     
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