Sega Model 3

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  1. zabrak

    zabrak Newly Registered

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    Model 3 emulator that I downloaded can be found here:
    http://www.trzy.org/Supermodel/Download.html


    Hello there, I'm having problems running the model 3 emulator on a smooth frame rate. Here's a video to illustrate what I'm talking about:
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rstdQ3i3o_Y

    specs are as follows:

    Operating System: Windows 7 Home Premium 64-bit (6.1, Build 7600) (7600.win7_gdr.110408-1633)

    System Manufacturer: Hewlett-Packard

    System Model: HP Pavilion dm4 Notebook PC

    BIOS: Default System BIOS

    Processor: Intel(R) Core(TM) i5 CPU M 430 @ 2.27GHz (4 CPUs), ~2.3GHz

    Memory: 4096MB RAM

    Available OS Memory: 3894MB RAM


    DirectX Version: DirectX 11

    Card name: Intel(R) HD Graphics

    Manufacturer: Intel Corporation

    Chip type: Intel(R) HD Graphics (Core i5)

    DirectDraw Acceleration: Not Available

    Direct3D Acceleration: Enabled

    AGP Texture Acceleration: Not Available


    Are there any recommended specs that I should refer to, to run this?

    Have you ran this at an appropriate speed? If so, mind posting your specs?

    Thanks
     
  2. APE

    APE Site Supporter 2015

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    Card name: Intel(R) HD Graphics

    I'd have to wager a guess that this might be the issue. Assuming this emulator uses 3D acceleration.
     
  3. hugh

    hugh Robust Member

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    The Intel(R) HD Graphics is the graphics chip that's on the processor. It's integrated graphics are intergraded with the CPU, where the RAM internal RAM
    I' have't hear much about the Intel R HD Graphics the max of ram you can hance 235mb. When the CPU thinks what needs to run. all availably Ram.

    Graphics chip on the Core i series have a built in the graphics Chip. It's a integraded, which mean the memory for the CPU and the Graphics. Here we are told where to go.

    The USER opens up a game. Memory now some memory comes from the main memory. How much? I think the range is 100-300mb from you main memory.

    This processor is able do some light 3d drawing but no great.

    You are better look at what AMD or NIVIDA have to offer.

    =Hugh
     
  4. la-li-lu-le-lo

    la-li-lu-le-lo ラリルレロ

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    I agree with APE as far as Intel HD Graphics being your bottleneck. You'd best get yourself a dedicated GPU if you want to do Model 3 emulation - and be aware that even then the only game that's really playable is Scud Race, and even it has problems.
     
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  5. Barc0de

    Barc0de Mythical Member from Time Immemorial

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    will it play Virtua Fucking Fighter 3??
     
  6. la-li-lu-le-lo

    la-li-lu-le-lo ラリルレロ

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    Nope. Well, technically yes, but there are tons of glitches and it runs like shit. Unplayable, basically.

    I played around with it a bit, but I gave up because I couldn't figure out how to control it/change the controls.
     
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  7. zabrak

    zabrak Newly Registered

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    Hmm alright. What if I just bought a model 3 board?

    Look what this guy has

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=28-ZQ0lrwjk&feature=related

    He says it's the original model 3 game hooked up to a TV, or whatever.

    When I asked him to clarify what he's talking about he sent me this link, which appears to be in like, Spanish. So I can't read it - http://www.speksnk.org/foro/viewtopic.php?f=50&t=70374




    Any links on how to set this up, so I can do this as well?

    Do I have to buy a distinctive 'lost world' sega model 3 board and hook it up to the TV, or can I buy a universal model 3 board that runs a variety of games and hook it up to the TV?
     
  8. la-li-lu-le-lo

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    It's not an easy task to connect a normal NTSC or even PAL TV. Your best bet is probably to get a Sony PVM, one that accepts the higher horizontal frequency (I forget exactly what it is, I think 31khz), and then get a supergun to connect it to that. There are some pretty cheap superguns around, like this one http://cgi.ebay.com/Arcade-supergun...essories_JN&hash=item3a662dd9e6#ht_500wt_1009

    That one will require you to wire your own controllers, but it's still easier than building your own from scratch.

    I've considered doing this myself actually, but it's really too expensive for my tastes. You need a supergun (which I have) a PVM (which I also have, but not the right kind) a model 3 board (they're usually not cheap) and a Model 3 JAMMA adapter (also not cheap).

    I think there might be a way to get a Model 3 game to work on a computer monitor, but I'm not sure.

    Is there a "universal" model 3 board? No. There is a mainboard, but it differs depending on which game you want to play. In most cases you're probably best off just getting the main board and the rom board together.

    So, in response to what I believe what was the heart of what you were asking: is there a simple, easy way to play model 3 games? No. It's all hopelessly complicated. Really the only good chance you had to play model 3 games was if you were alive in the mid to late 90s and had an arcade around that stocked them. I was lucky enough to have that opportunity, and its really a shame that SEGA won't rerelease those games, but what are you gonna do?

    Sorry if this isn't terribly cogent. Honestly, I've had a few to drink.
     
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  9. HEX1GON

    HEX1GON FREEZE! Scumbag

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    I'm pretty sure i'd require a pretty decent rig to run, the Model 2 Emulator by ElSemi used to get pretty choppy results on my older PC.

    Intel Chipsets are actually not really good for gaming at all. Past laptops I've used have them and are a pain to work with.
     
  10. HEX1GON

    HEX1GON FREEZE! Scumbag

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    You can change controls by setting the control commandline. A simple tutorial will help you set it all up. But if you cbf, you can download some GUIs :)
     
  11. la-li-lu-le-lo

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    I did try a couple different GUIs. None of them had any options for changing the controls.
     
  12. Shadowlayer

    Shadowlayer KEEPIN' I.T. REAL!!

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    Intel graphics except for sandy bridge suck major ass, even old games run like shit with those.

    But since you have a laptop you can't pop a GPU in there, so my advice is that if you dont have a desktop you better sell this thing and buy one with discrete graphics.
     
  13. 7Force

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    That's the problem with HP laptops: most of them seem to have pretty powerful CPUs, but then they don't even have dedicated GPUs...
     
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