Sega Saturn Debug disks

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  1. Ruiner

    Ruiner Rapidly Rising Member

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    I am fully aware the saturn had boot disks for 1st party and 3rd party disks. Were any of these ever Leaked? If so does anyone know were I could find them? If this is in the wrong section or not allowed please get rid of this post.
     
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    ASSEMbler Administrator Staff Member

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    You can't download and copy them. They come up for sale in the forum
    sometimes.
     
  3. Ruiner

    Ruiner Rapidly Rising Member

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    I am aware they wont boot anything anymore once they are copied, i have a chip. I have an interest in them purely what look like booting something. Like on screen text or anything like that.
     
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  4. WarHampster

    WarHampster Robust Member

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    When you put the system disc in and turn the saturn on it will display the sega logo and the text "completed". Then you just replace the system disc with the CDR, and it should boot.
     
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    Lot of money to see "completed" and have a tsr in the saturn mem.
     
  6. hl718

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    Hell of a lot cheaper for Sega though as compared to creating debug machines for QA teams.

    Why make a special piece of hardware when you can just ship a disc that is essentially a soft-mod? :)

    -hl718
     
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    I meant from a collector's point of view.
     
  8. MottZilla

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    You can burn the system disc and use a swap trick to boot it. However if you want to then boot a game you'll require your swap trick to be using a switch to control lid status and not just tape holding it pressed. I'd done it before, the only way it's useful is if you were to leave your Saturn turned on after using the disc to disable the security check for a long play time of many games or if you leave your Saturn on 24/7, in which case you'd probably need to make certain it is always being cooled off by a fan or something.
     
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    there was a KD03 disc? are you sure? what was it for?
     
  11. Trenton_net

    Trenton_net AKA SUPERCOM32

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    Speaking of boot methods, anyone have a Magic Strong Card? I assume they wern't produced in big numbers at all.
     
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    I've heard about those, but never seen one... aren't they supposed to slow down the CD drive to make swapping easier?
     
  13. l_oliveira

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    The point of using these discs is having the drive read their custom bar code so it would unlock and allow CD-R use, not ?
    If the disc has a custom bar code there's no point on copying it in a CD-R, I think. Same as the Dreamcast official GD-R boot disc, not ?

    Maybe the CD-R copy could just be good as curiosity item...
     
  14. hl718

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    That is correct. They are essentially software mod chips.

    Once running the security check is disabled and CD-R discs run as if they were authentic originals.

    -hl718
     
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    Custom bar code? The Saturn discs have some information recorded on the outter edge of the disc. What it is I don't think is really known except maybe by someone that has studied how the modchips work if anyone has done that. But the system disc disables checking discs for whatever security data is on the outter edge of the disc. Barcode is definitely the wrong term. I would imagine there is some regular binary data near that edge followed by the visual licensing ring text.

    But unless the system disc is checked by the actual CDROM for some kind of cue to turn off security, maybe there is a purely software way of telling the system to turn off security which could have been put into a Action Replay-like cartridge.
     
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    Segafreak_NL v2.0 New and improved. Site supporter 2012-15

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    There's blue, red (orange) and black afaik.
     
  18. ConsoleFun

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    The mysterious blue KD00..... All I know, from looking at the photo in the eBay auction, is that it was released by JVC.

    (The red 1st party disc KD01 and the black 3rd party disc KD02 were released both by JVC and COLUMBIA.)
     
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    SYSTEM-DISC (KD02)

    Hey everyone, I know this threas is a bit old, this is what the booklet reads on the KD02:

    OPERATING INSTRUCTIONS

    1.)Place the system-disc in the SegaSaturn and turn the power on.

    2.0When system-disc and the MAKER-ID number appear on the
    screen, remove the system-disc and replace it with the developmental disc (without turning the power off). Until the power is turned off, the system-disc
    and the MAKER-ID developmental disc programs will function together.


    CAUTION

    1.)The system-disc is a developmental disc, not for consumer use.

    2.)If the system-disc ID numbers and the MAKER-ID disc ID do not match,
    the programs will not function.

    3.) Do not copy the system-disc.
     
  20. l_oliveira

    l_oliveira Officer at Arms

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    Don't copy that floppy ! :lol:


    Anyway, without the "custom barcode" it would be useless anyway. An retail disc will have different data on it's protection ring than that of the system disc so swaps would just make it work once. And since you can just double swap the CDR with a retail disc already, moot point, eh ? :rolleyes:
     
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