Sega Saturn DEV HARDWARE

Discussion in 'Sega Saturn Programming and Development' started by Viper, Apr 19, 2011.

  1. dj898

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    Great! thats what i asking for, thanks.
    Is it possible that you can have an look on the pinout for me?
    Call it useless, but i allways try to reassembly my kits to full function status.

    I also search for the vcd cable. Do you know the company made this plugs?
    I build a H2510 cable before, so its not impossible to find such plugs today. Will be great when you can help me ;-).
    "YN" is typed on the vcd plug. maybe this helps.

    thanks so far!
     
  3. retro

    retro Resigned from mod duty 15 March 2018

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    You won't find the cable. Yes, I know the company, and they stopped making them years ago. I have the closest thing to it, made by another company, and it just doesn't fit. If you want to use it, you'd be better off changing the connectors (not that I condone this!)
     
  4. Jackhead

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    So much companys made plugs. I respect you knowledge about saturn dev.
    Im ready to do research by my own, maybe ends in nothing...
    But give me something to keep alive :)?
    Just want to keep lovely hardware alive.
     
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  5. retro

    retro Resigned from mod duty 15 March 2018

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    Then change the sockets ;-)

    Put it this way... the best lead I had, which turned out to be a false lead, would have meant I would be paying over £100 to make 1 cable.
     
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    So hard to get a vcd cable? awesome. Changeing socket is the last option. I want to keep it real.
    Damn they made such a plug. I was thinking sony is make such things, but when i look on the vcd plug :banghead: .
    Well i payed around 50€ for the two plugs for the h2510 cable import from japan. So im ready to go far.
    But ok, i start searching right now just ask for more information...
     
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    There is no more information I can give you - the manufacturer who made them no longer do so. Trust me, I've trawled through hundreds of companies across Japan and Europe. I've spoken to former Cross Products employees. They're just not out there. And I've spent 8 years looking.

    If you insist on continuing with this quest, good luck! By the way - you'll come across the Japanese digital camera interface - it's similar but not the same.
     
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    Have you read my previous post here ?
     
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    Im sorry Wily, thanks for the info!

    I mark up the 8pins now. Here a screen:

    [​IMG]

    One question:

    CN12 pin --> NMI cable pin = Have no idea what pin this is :redface:
    pin 1 --> pin 2
    pin 2 --> pin 4
    pin 3 --> pin 5
    pin 4 --> pin 7
    pin 5 --> pin 8
    pin 6 --> pin 6
    pin 7 --> pin 1 (red)
    pin 8 --> pin 10

    I found another cable near the AV out. Any idea? VGA mod or something??

    [​IMG]
     
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  11. Dr.Wily

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    CN12 : no problem it's the connector labeled CN12 on the front left of the Saturn's motherboard. Pin 8 on this connector is ground.

    On other side, it's an IDC / IDT 10 pins standard connector like IDE cable (40 pins) with a pitch of 2.54mm. You can easily found it in old PC motherboard. This is the same connector that a serial cable wire who link mobo to dsub9 or dsub25 serial plugs.

    You can establish the pinout starting from red wire as pin 1 and continue like this :

    ____-____
    1 3 5
    2 4 .......
    ----------

    Female connector.
    1 = red wire.
     
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  12. Jackhead

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    The Sophia unit use an input voltage of 135V :confused: . My stepdown converter gives out 100-120V, can i use it? I never seen 135V input before. Im in 220V zone, so i dont know...
     
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    Where did you get that from? The sticker on the back of them says 85-132V. It even illustrates that in the manual.
     
  14. Jax184

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    Could anyone enlighten me as to what exactly I have here?

    http://www.jax184.com/projects/Saturn/T1i_6967s.JPG
    http://www.jax184.com/projects/Saturn/T1i_6963s.JPG
    http://www.jax184.com/projects/Saturn/T1i_6956s.JPG
    http://www.jax184.com/projects/Saturn/T1i_6957s.JPG

    I've seen some similar units online, but not that one. I didn't get anything with it, as it came into the computer recycling center I work at and had already been processed by someone before I saw it. Also, by fiddling with the dip switches I can set 50/60hz and region. Great for playing import games. Haven't tried playing a burned disc yet.

    I also have a grey Japanese saturn with an NMI cable hanging out of it and a hand-labeled ROM chip that says 1.01A on it. Is this anything special?
     
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    Sega Saturn PSY-Q Cartridge - HELP!!

    Hi, question for anybody that knows anything about the Sega Saturn PSY-Q Blue cartridge. Can this cartridge run ISO Saturn Images through DOS or Windows? Also do you need the SPECIAL SN Systems PSY-Q Dongle attached the blue cartridge to make the cartridge work or can you just use a MALE TO MALE parallel cable and don't worry about the SCSI settings. N64 SN64 doesn't need the special SCSI card to make the device run and I would say this doesn't either. Please if anyone can reply to my PM box with some answers. I'm getting ready to purchase the BLUE Saturn DEV KIT cartridge and just the cartridge itself. Do I need anything else to make this device work? Any special Sega Saturn CD's?

    Thanks

    Viper

    :)
     
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    Why cant you just make that cable? as Dr.Wily said, its just standard IDC connector - easy to get?

    retro, is there some other voodoo as to why its a special connector? or was your cable picture from above for use AFTER you changed the internal connector to an IDC one?
     
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  19. retro

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    Let's see...

    Jax184 - That's a stock Saturn, modified by Psygnosis to work with their Psy-Q development system. It won't run copied CDs without a boot disc. The other Saturn, similarly, was modified by Cross Products for their CartDev system. Both are not much use on their own as anything other than a stock Saturn, although as you say they'll run in 50/60hz. Still nice to have, though. I wonder where that one came from? Are you near any development studios?

    Viper - the cartridge is an interface, it doesn't run software on a PC. The PsyQ doesn't run standard ISO files, no. It runs code that's been compiled in its own format. You may be able to connect the PsyQ with a cable, but some say the interface card may be proprietary so you'll still need that. I haven't tried it with a different card.

    Bad_Ad84 - the picture is of the connector on the OUTSIDE of the Saturn, i.e. it's the bit that connects to the back of the CartDev. I'm up on a Sunday morning with not much to do, though, so it's your lucky day - have a pic of the inside:

    [​IMG]

    As you can see, they put a proper header on the board.
     
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    http://www.jax184.com/projects/Saturn/T1i_6963s.JPG

    that looks like one of two Psy-Q Saturn consoles I had years ago, except mine didn't have 50/60Hz switch either.
    the other one looked just like stock except the NMI cable hanging out in front...

    about a hand-labeled ROM chip the one in my pre-production prototype console has the ROM chip with its glass port covered by the label as well...

    [​IMG]
     
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