Shipping over 30 KG

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  1. Japan-Games.com

    Japan-Games.com Well Known Member

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    Anyone know of a company that can handle packages over 30 KG from Japan? I mean single packages, not moving an entire house or something. I have some things that I want to ship that are 40-50 KG but there just doesn't seem to be any good option.

    FedEx and DHL are over $1,000 since they only offer 1-3 day service. Japan Post, Sagawa, and the others adhere to the 30 KG limit. Freight isn't an option because of the documentation fees.

    Any clues?
     
  2. GaijinPunch

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    You're screwed. If there is an option, you will be the first one that I know of to find it. Closest thing I've heard of is a company that will let you piggy back on a container, so you can effectively ship freight w/o filling up a container. Never used them though.
     
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    Yeah, I know about containers, half-containers, and less-than-full containers.....but the bitch of it is the documentation costs on both ends which can add $150 to $300 to the total price. As it stands now you're better off literally buying a round trip ticket to Japan and picking up the item in person...heh.
     
  4. Jamtex

    Jamtex Adult Orientated Mahjong Connoisseur

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    I had to ship a 35kg Pachinko machine and that cost the best part of $800 to do and that was using a freight company. Most of the costs were to do with custom and paperwork charges. Originally it was for 110kg of stuff, but the quote went from $1800 to $4000.... so had to repack a load of boxes and sent everything via EMS and SAL which reduced the bill to $800.
     
  5. Tatsujin

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    Shipping sometimes sucks. It can be more expensive than ship your own fat ass to the destination, even the item weighs just half of it, requires only a fracture of space, doesn't even needs economy standards to travel and can take weeks instead of hours.
     
  6. Japan-Games.com

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    Good point...heh.

    Actually it looks like I'm going to use FedEx. They aren't too bad when you consider the fact that you can use slightly larger boxes. 40KG to Malaysia is about 45,000 yen for 3-day service. Can't complain about that.

    I actually wrote my post after checking on prices to Oman. 40 KG? $2,000...heh. I thought they had changed their price structure or something. Looks like things weren't as out of whack as I thought.
     
  7. Bananabox-Ninja

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    @Japan-Games.com

    Just my 2 cents, but you could reduce cost by shipping sea freight. As you describe it you need to get it to Malaysia fast and speed always costs a fortune.
     
  8. andoba

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    I seriously hate how shippings work in this planet, the chinese shop in front of my house buys from a distributor who buys millions of things from China, making local industry completely unaffordable, and if I want to import a fucking audio CD I've got to pay a fine for it. I so fucking much hate it.
     
  9. Bananabox-Ninja

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    @andoba

    Well comparing yourself to a small business is like comparing apples to oranges.

    When you import something as a business you go for bulk. It is always cheaper in the long run. That is what that distributor does, they buy a container worth of goods in China. Then ship it to (your case) Spain, pay import tax for the bulk, store it and charge the cost of the goods to the stores by upping the price of their products.
    And of course if you are a shrewd form filler you can lower the duties you have to pay when importing stuff. For instance it is cheaper to ship an arcade console as spare parts then as a whole unit. Here in the Dutchlands spare parts are 6% as opposed to 19% the last time I checked.

    Maybe the next time you buy a CD from another country try to ask if they will send it as a gift and email you the bill so that it looks like a gift.
    Worked for me a couple of times in the past.


    As an individual you are indeed always screwed over unless you can arrange for the person you are buying from to 'fraud' a little with the papers. For example the music CD could be shipped to you as a 'gift' from a family member/friend and it would be tax exempt.
     
  10. SilverBull

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    I got quite some packages from different parts of the world in the past, almost everything marked as gift, and it got through maybe 1 in 5 times. However, I'd strongly advise NOT to ask the seller to send as a gift; customs officers are not morons and not required to let anything marked as gift go through. If they suspect the declaration to be false, you either need to pay or provide evidence it is indeed a gift.
    Also, please note that a wrong bill of entry (of course, only one listing an import fee that is too small :rolleyes:) is considered tax fraud. That's why you shouldn't ask the seller to declare packets incorrectly. If they do it anyway, you can always claim you didn't notice, but if it can be proven you asked them to do so, you are in deep sh*t.
     
  11. Jamtex

    Jamtex Adult Orientated Mahjong Connoisseur

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    Pachinko machine sent friday from Japan, arrived tuesday in Australia, was $800 plus the duty and a $100 palleting fee...
     
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  12. Bananabox-Ninja

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    True that.
    It seems I have been lucky then, so far none of my foreign orders got stopped at customs.

    Ah well.

    *knocks on wood*

    Just in case.
     
  13. andoba

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    I always ask sellers to send things as gifts, but in the spanish douane, every packet gets opened right now, whatever you use as description, and most asked for the value declaration. That system worked some years ago, but for me, not anymore. :banghead:
     
  14. Tatsujin

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    Cool. I guess the Pachinko machine itself was around 3000~5000 yens only ;)
     
  15. Japan-Games.com

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    Which company did you use?
     
  16. Japan-Games.com

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    (tactics undivulged)
     
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  17. GaijinPunch

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    You might not want to divulge your tactics online.
     
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