Showing off the Framemeister! SNES RGB

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  1. AtomizerZero

    AtomizerZero Intrepid Member

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    So, I got the Framemeister the other day (Thanks Yakumo!), and needless to say, i'm very impressed! Decided to capture some footage of my SNES. I've uploaded the video to youtube (not the best... video plays at 30 fps ¬_¬ ). It's just a 2 and a half minute video of Super Mario World. Check it out and let me know what you think! Plus, if anyone has any tips on how I might be able to improve it, or if you wanna see anything else being played, let me know! I can do screenshots too, if wanted ^_^

     
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  2. KDHofAvalon

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    Is it just my imagination, or does the video compression make the scan lines look a bit weird in some places (ex: the banzai bill's mouth)? Other than that it looks good, about the same as I got while playing with it yesterday. How did you deal with the tearing issue? Every single recording I made had a very visible line slowly crawling up the screen every six seconds or so.
     
  3. Banjo

    Banjo <B>Site Supporter 2014</B>

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    Impressive... most impressive.
     
  4. AtomizerZero

    AtomizerZero Intrepid Member

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    After examining the quality of the recording (before uploading to YouTube) more closely, it seems the scan lines just aren't quite right... most noticeable on Reds, but it's absolutely fine on the actual TV, so I'm guessing my Elgato Capture Card HD is probably doing a little bit of scaling or something. I'll add some photo's that I've taken using my phone.

    In regards to the tearing issue.. I haven't personally experienced any? What was you using to record with?

    Here's the link to a few pictures I took. http://imgur.com/a/1RhK1
     
  5. Yakumo

    Yakumo Pillar of the Community *****

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    If you want to capture the scan lines well with a capture card then set both the Framemeister and the Capture card to 720p and encoded at a very high bit rate. I used 10 to 22mbps BluRay standard Mpeg2.
     
  6. AtomizerZero

    AtomizerZero Intrepid Member

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    Yeh, all that was set correctly.. I worked out what it is though. If I set the screen to Standard, that's when my capture card makes the scan lines weird (still, looks fine on TV). If I set it to, for example X1 (which comes up as Smart_X1 on the TV), it makes the picture almost half the size, and my capture card doesn't mess around with the scan lines. Also, X2 doesn't seem to work in 720P. It comes up as Unsupported.
     
  7. KDHofAvalon

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    I use a BlackMagic Intensity Pro. Guess I'll have to have a look at my settings. Hopefully there's a way to get the scanlines to look right on YouTube as well.
     
  8. stranno

    stranno Enthusiastic Member

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    Any cheaper device to upscale component PS2 and output HDMI? This looks fantastic but im looking for 80-100€ max.
     
  9. keropi

    keropi Familiar Face

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    The framemeister is very nice once you get used to it's settings ( I have to thank Yakumo as well for shipping mine :) )

    Having proper 240p upscaling is a big deal, one can only appreciate it if he sees it live... no more crappy interlaced upscaling or crappy tv processors that mess with quality.
    I am currently playing Castlevania SOTN on the ps2 via RGB (IMHO there is no need for a component connection anymore with the ps2 to get decent quality on modern tv sets, the framemeister really puts the tv upscalers to shame - at least "normal" sets) and I have to say it makes the game more awesome LOL
     
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  10. Yakumo

    Yakumo Pillar of the Community *****

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    Sure, just take a look on Ebay but none of them will look very nice I can promise you. There's a reason why the Framemeister cost so much. Maybe it cost a little too much but I guess that's the price for high quality. Still, compared to real professional equipment the Framemeister isn't actually that expensive.
     
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    stranno Enthusiastic Member

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    Yes, i guess, but 250+€ (plus shipping fee) for an upscaler/converter is too much for me.
     
  12. Yakumo

    Yakumo Pillar of the Community *****

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    I understand where you're coming from. I also had a hard time spending that much on mine but I'm glad I did. It all depends upon how much you want that look of playing on a CRT via RGB.
     
  13. Trenton_net

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    I've been on the fence for a while now. Can anyone tell me if you use composite video (I know, it's terrible) through the Framemister, if you will get at least the same quality as you would if viewed over a CRT? Or will the Framemister actually make it look worse?
     
  14. Yakumo

    Yakumo Pillar of the Community *****

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    Hmm, I've used coposite just to see what it was like and yeah, it's pretty crap just like composite on a CRT. same red bleeding, same rainbow effect on saturn mesh effects and some dot crawl. It does look better than using the native HDTV but itsill looks rubbish IMO.
     
  15. keropi

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    I have also tested with the Famicom AV and composite from a nesrgb board (which is better than stock composite).
    It does look better with the framemeister compared to connecting directly to the tv , in my eyes it looked the same as connecting to a trinitron crt. But using composite though the framemeister is just a waste IMHO
     
  16. tknjin

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    Honestly if one is going to truly buy a framemeister, it should be on their prerogative to at least minimum use S video. Composite just seems like a waste of use for the amount of money it is to get such a piece of hardware. Then again that is my way of thinking :p
     
  17. Blashyrkhmr101

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    I'm glad I bought one of these lovely things. It's been so pleasant playing Saturn games with RGB cables on a 1080p monitor.

    Does anyone know if you can get an adapter to convert component video to D-Terminal?
     
  18. keropi

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    ^ got my adapter from Yakumo as well , maybe he sells them separately as well?
     
  19. Yakumo

    Yakumo Pillar of the Community *****

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    I do sell them separately. When bought with the Framemeister they cost 1000yen but when bought separately they cost 1500yen with airmail shipping included (no tracking at that price).
     
  20. horstenss

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    Is there a good blur setting anywhere?
    I'd like to use RGB, get scanlines and be able to use enough blur so that dithering works (that is really a lot of blur!).
    That way it'll truly look very close to a TV of the time, just minus all the unwanted analogue issues :)
     
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