SNES jr ypbpr mod

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  1. brainpann

    brainpann Site Supporter 2012

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    I have a friend who would like to mod his ntsc SNES jr for ypbpr so he can directly connect to the component input on his tv. Is this possible? I did a basic search and have seen that it is possible on the old style SNES but am getting next to no info on the jr. Everything points to the standard RGB mod.

    I was also thinking that maybe he could use a THS7314 amp , because the spec sheet says it outputs ypbpr, if no other direct mod could be achieved.

    Anyone here have some solid info on the matter? Also, I did inform him that even if he is able to achieve the mod, his TV might not play nice with the 240p signal. He is willing to try it anyway.

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  2. takeshi385

    takeshi385 Mojarra Frita Bandit

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    As far as I know the jr doesn't have the video encoder needed for this mod. I did this mod to my first revision snes, which requires an amp unlike the second revision mobo.
     
  3. Marmotta

    Marmotta Dauntless Member

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    Afaik, the SNES jr can't output YPbPr without a mod like Ace's from the Sega-16 forums (Helder sells boards here for the NESRGB which may work OK on the SNES), which could have mixed results. You could always just buy an RGB to component converter, which would do the same job, but be external rather than internal.
     
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    brainpann Site Supporter 2012

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    Thanks for the info. After all is said and done, he's not sure he wants to rgb mod just yet.
     
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    takeshi385 Mojarra Frita Bandit

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    I want to add that the component video from the snes's on board chip doesn't give as much detail as rgb, Its not noticeable until games like earthbound are played. When I say"detail" I mean color, Its pixel perfect video of course. (I don't know if its the same for the second revision mobo)
     
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    Pikkon "Moving in Stereo"

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    I have never seen rgb in person but I can say a component modded snes can produce a nice picture,here are some I took.

    This is one my sony trinitron.

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    And one on a plasma.
    [​IMG]
     
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    takeshi385 Mojarra Frita Bandit

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    I did a side by side comparison(rgb vs ypbpr), and the difference is there, though with games like mario you may not see it, but with zelda its likely you will. If you don't have them side by side you won't, notice it.
     
  8. alf717

    alf717 Robust Member

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    Have the YPbPr mods changed at all within the past year? Like better methods to use? I was curious if the one that requires the S-ENC chip and adding 220uF caps is still the most common.
     
  9. derekb

    derekb Well Known Member

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    I'm actually curious on this as well, what's the 'best' way to wire up the mod on a BA6592F system at this point, I've seen people suggesting adding caps, adding 75 ohm resisters on two lines, using 1k resistors to drop ground instead, etc. All of the existing threads are a total mess at this point, so if someone can clarify on the ideal setup, I'd be much obliged
     
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    Marmotta Dauntless Member

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    To be honest, I've found just wiring it directly with a single 75 ohm resistor on luma works best for me.
     
  11. Calpis

    Calpis Champion of the Forum

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    Use a THS7314 in it's ac-coupled mode to amplify Pb and Pr, just like a RGB mod. Ac-coupling requires a series capacitor and pull-up resistor at the inputs.

    The 1k resistors on the encoder's Pb and Pr outputs are required to make the pins "work", without them the pin cannot sink current, which means it cannot drive the series capacitor for the THS7314.

    The THS7314 requires 75 ohm resistors on its outputs to "back terminate" the line. It's your choice whether to insert 220 uF ac-coupling capacitors in series with the 75 ohm resistors.

    ? Luma already has a 75 ohm resistor (or equivalent) terminating the line for S-video.

    How are you wiring Pb and Pr? You need an amplifier (as you technically do for RGB) for signal compliance.
     
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    derekb Well Known Member

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    Thanks Calpis! Any chance you have a diagram of the wiring setup?
     
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