Sony loses a cause over Other OS in finland

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  1. karsten

    karsten Member of The Cult Of Kefka

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    Could mean nothing or a lot. still it's been acknowledged that sony crippled the console's features damaging its buyer.

    100E might not be that much but thing of how many Fat PS3 are out there! 0_0

     
  2. APE

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    Just saw that myself.

    Apparently Sony thinks that as long as someone agrees to a EULA they can sign away every law applicable as well as their own personal human rights. Whats that? Laws trump all rule of the land?
     
  3. Shadowlayer

    Shadowlayer KEEPIN' I.T. REAL!!

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    Did the PS3 receive that euro tax break for PCs like the PS2 did?

    Because it that case that $100 per unit is money going back to the people...
     
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    Vosse Well Known Member

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    Corporations will think of any and all legal loopholes possible to protect their own asses. They don't really give a fuck about the Consumer/Customer.
     
  5. Taucias

    Taucias Site Supporter 2014,2015

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    Nope. It's a myth. Sony tried it with the PS2, but it failed to get the PS2 classified as a computer. No tax break. They even took it to the court of appeal, but it was rejected. Supposedly that is why the European PS2s have a version of BASIC (YABASIC) included on the demo disc it comes with.

    The PS3 was not submitted for classification in the same way.

    The Other OS/Linux feature was supposedly added to try to prevent (ironically) the hobbiest hacking computer from adding Linux to the machine.
     
  6. subbie

    subbie Guardian of the Forum

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    This ruling is good but the whole thing leaves me so mixed. Because of all this mess I question if we will ever see a system this open again (baring homebrew created/focused systems like GP32/Pandora like systems). =(
     
  7. angelwolf71885

    angelwolf71885 Dauntless Member

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    sony hasn't lost otherOS lawsuits unless they are forced to restore otherOS support and add it into the slim models
     
  8. A. Snow

    A. Snow Old School Member

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    There is no case to force Sony into adding the Other OS feature to the PS3 Slim. If there ever was a ruling it would only apply to older models that it was removed from to begin with.
     
  9. angelwolf71885

    angelwolf71885 Dauntless Member

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    i know.. but i wont be happy until sony is forced to do so
    linux should of never been removed in the first place when they didn't include it in the slims

    keep in mind that the slim and fat ps3s uses the exact same FW file
    and linux was first removed from the slims

    the second removal came from geohotz glitch of otherOS for homebrew
     
  10. SilverBull

    SilverBull Site Supporter 2010,2011,2013,2014,2015.SitePatron

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    Agreed.

    Doesn't matter. Newer mainboards have slightly different hardware, and the firmware has just been extended to handle it.

    Remember fail0verflow's demonstration from 27C3? They showed a slim PS3 with Linux instead of GameOS, but no video out (and said in the video they had no clue why it didn't work). Turned out later that they had flashed a firmware that was too old for console. It could bring up the Cell and boot, but the graphics drivers in the Hypervisor didn't manage to initialize the RSX.

    Nope, it was not. They cannot remove something that had never been included. It is another question whether the hardware would have been theoretically capable of supporting it, though (and we know the answer).

    Pretty hilarious engineering fail. Didn't Geohot describe what needed to be changed in the Hypervisor to prevent this hack from working?

    Playing devil's advocate (this is not targetted at anybody specific in this thread)...

    <RANT>

    I never understood why anybody would think they had a right to use Linux on the slim. OtherOS' inclusion in the fat PS3 models was an attempt at preventing (or merely just delaying) the hacking community from cracking the security system; and it has been extremely successful at that.
    However, the slim is a different story; it is different hardware that is clearly distinguishable from the fat model. It does what its name implies: playing PS3 games. If a consumer wants everything else, it cannot be helped that they need to pay attention to the fine print on the box.

    What comes next? Forcing TV manufacturers to include software features of high-priced models into the low-end ones, just because they happen to use the same SOC? The consumer has an alternative, so let the free market decide which product is the best...

    </RANT>

    [Temporarily out of irony tags]
     
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