I've finally (thanks to the ever eagle eyed UJ) managed to obtain a genuine Net Yaroze Access Card, therefore this weekend I decided (amongst other things) to dig out an old PC and get the NY kit installed for the first time since I purchased it. As luck would have it, 3 or 4 weeks ago a mate of mine dropped off a Compaq Deskpro P500, which he'd literally found in a skip. It didn't appear to be damaged, so he dragged it home only to ask himself why he even needed it. Thus, he handed it over to me as part of an exchange. Long story short, it actually only had a PII 500Mhz processor, 8Gb HDD and 32Mb RAM. However someone had seen fit to install Windows XP onto it! The slowest damned PC I ever laid eyes on and surely the final straw in the previous owners patience! That led to it being found in the skip no doubt. Direct cause & effect! I've had a genuine Win '95 disc for years. I proceeded to install the old OS, or rather I stumbled into the first issue. Old PC's don't necessarily do what they say. BIOS can be set to boot from CDrom, however in reality it will ignore it and go directly to floppy, bypass floppy and immediately start to boot into XP. 2 or 3 frustrating attempts to find a BIOS related solution resulted in me downloading a Win 95 boot disc from the net. As far as that goes, all was well, yet I stumbled into issue 2. PC's have become much more intelligent and we have become very much used to plug & play, automatic stuff and I had to remember how to format the HDD, partition it and then present it for CDrom boot! This was all stuff I had forgotten about and was surprised to discover I still remembered most of it once I got going. So, we had a working PC, booting into Windows '95. Now to find the correct drivers. That took 2hrs! I still haven't managed to get the networking drivers as the ones on HP/ Compaq's site don't work. They throw up some error at 99% and I had to uninstall stuff and on, and on it went! I've cleaned it all up, thrown in some extra RAM and the PC is running smoothly (other than the networking side). I removed the wrapper from the CDrom (a pristine unused Sony PC software disc) and started the process.... by 3am I gave up! The manuals I have are in Japanese, so I hunted for an English PDF, which I finally discovered on a DVDr I had burnt several months ago. Raking around in the attic at roughly 2am is not a good idea. I have become so used to 'setup' programmes that do all the hard work that I gave up this morning and will possibly go back to it tonight. Quite pleased with it thus far as I've not touched Win '95 for about a decade and I remembered many of the DOS commands required. Messed around with an already existing image on the net to create the backdrop.
I don't think windows 95 CD is bootable, mine wasn't for sure, you should use 98 instead. As for the network problem, what is the exact deskpro model and is there an option in the bios to deactivate the network?
Either the pic was taken in some weird angle or that's a gigantic 3.5" diskette?! (or maybe I've used forgot have big they are )
I currently don't have a genuine copy of Win 98 (se) to hand, but I shall hunt it down. The guide mentions either Win 3.1, Win 95 and then in one of the folders I noticed mention of Win 98. I'll start hunting as soon as I am more comfortable with setting this up.
You can use the yaroze with windows XP too, just not with the transfer utility provided by Sony, but there are 2 user made replacements, and codewarrior's one.
I'd read a thread on the NY and someone had attempted to use XP and became rather stuck, I decided against it right now lol - hard enough to fathom out what Sony had in mind when writing the god awful instruction manual that NY bundles with!
If you want to follow the guide, you should stick to Dos What's wrong with the install guide? You should read the one from the full devkit, it's basically the same thing, but longer and with more twists!
It's probably NOT the guide, let me say that in the defence of the original writer and also of the technology. The issue is the end user lol. A lethal combination of utter fatigue and lack of experience with this stuff. At present I am using the ''Start Guide'' PDF, which just looks like it's an English version of the original documentation from Sony. It is also probably really well translated from Japanese, yet it may have well remained as such for all the sense it currently makes to me. I should really just get some sleep! And yes, I have booted into DOS, but only after dumping the entire CD contents into drive C: I wasn't sure whether I was meant to leave it in the exact same structure as the CD contents, but I assumed so.
The english PDFs are the exact copies of the paper guides, after all they come from the official website.
It looks ''Official'', and when I checked the Japanese literature I have against the ones I am currently wading through I noticed similarities in structure and the like, so determined they must be one in the same.
I've created a folder in C: called Playstation, which now contains the contents of the CDrom. I go into PSX and I double click on the file djsetup.bat. Momentarily a DOS window flashes onto the screen and nothing else happens. However, if I press Ctrl+Alt+Del I can't see any processes relating to the PS actually running. I must have missed a step somewhere. OH: Perhaps I am meant to decant the CDrom into the open C: rather than within a folder. Shall try that.
You need to fire up a Command Prompt window (which will give you the DOS command line environment in a window), or boot straight to a DOS window. djsetup.bat just sets up the DOS environment and then exits, which is why the window promptly disappears. You then run djsetup.bat & do your makes/sicons & stuff from the DOS window. BTW, if the PSX directory you copied over isn't at C:\PSX , then you also need to edit the djseup.bat script to reflect where the PSX directory is on your system is on your system.
