ssl telnet, server commands, clueless

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  1. Japan-Games.com

    Japan-Games.com Well Known Member

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    Hey guys

    Ive created a vBulletin based website and I'm trying to handle some troubleshooting issues. A lot of people on the support message boards are talking about issuing commands to get results from my server. For example:

    mysqladmin -u root -p var ext stat ver proc

    I'm guessing this is a command I have to execute somewhere on my server, but I've not done that type of work before and I'm not even sure where to go to execute such a command. They've referenced ssl telnet, which I'm assuming is what I need to use to access my server and issue commands? I've downloaded Ultra Edit 32 but I'm a bit overwhelmed as to how to use it and I'm not even sure that's the right place to be.

    My server is hosetd by iPowerWeb, it's not on my PC. I've searched around in the control panel there but again I haven't seen any area where I can issue commands.

    The optimazation guide that is telling me to issue commands can be found here:

    http://www.vbulletin.com/forum/showthread.php?t=70117

    I'm having trouble with #8 (although I used the workaround), #12, and #14.

    I'm guessing it's probably quite a bit to learn, so if you can just point me in the right direction I can do a lot of research on my own.

    Thanks!
     
  2. neull

    neull Guest

    vDeck doesn't have a command prompt where you can issue comands, I used to have a webhost that used vDeck, and It was frustrating when trying to install certain things.
     
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  3. Aypok

    Aypok Spirited Member

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    You mean "SSH" and telnet, not SSL. The site also means SSH or telnet: use SSH if your server is running something useful (Linux or some form of Unix), or telnet if it doesn't (Windows). They're two ways to get command-line access to a remote machine.

    Check with your web host to see if they provide either of them. If it's a shared host, you may be out of luck: SSH/telnet access is oftentimes reserved for users who purchase dedicated (or at least virtual dedicated) boxen - but it varies from host to host. It's worth asking them.

    If they do give you such access, they should also have documentation on how to log in.
     
  4. Japan-Games.com

    Japan-Games.com Well Known Member

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    It's possible to have your own domain name and hosting plan yet use a shared server?
     
  5. neull

    neull Guest

    Yes, they just make your domain name forward to a different port. My hosting is shared, and if you go to the IP, then it brings up a "Welcome to Apache" screen, saying that it's installed successfully.
     
  6. Japan-Games.com

    Japan-Games.com Well Known Member

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    How difficult is it to use of my myextra PCs and make it the server? Seems that a lot of people do that, but without experience I've always just defaulted to a hosting company for everything.
     
  7. port187

    port187 Serial Chiller

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    Looks like you have a php/mysql site and that can be a pain to host yourself if you don't have the experiance.
    Hosting let's say simple html/asp pages can be done quite easy on a windows machine running IIS (internet information server) but for php/mysql the best would be a unix box but it requires quite some unix skills to get it up and running and if you don't have them that leaves you with php and mysql on windows that might work fine but it's quite a hustle to migrate php/mysql to run it on windows and you will need to get into configuration files and invest some time in learning and messing around.

    To host yourself you can use any old desktop that runs windows xp/2003 server (make sure port 80 is open in the firewall/acl or/and forwarded to that box internally) anyway if you know how to handle ntfs/ setting file permissions/ creating users/groups and how to configure webs in IIS, just install php and mysql for windows get yourself phpmyadmin and just try it first. But if you don't feel comfortable with all above then better leave it to the hosting company.

    If you want to leave it at your isp and test if you have ssh access to execute that command in try the following:
    Just download putty (here) it's free and easy to use, choose ssh and type in your hostname or ip and hit 'open' and you will see a dosbox like window appearing asking you for your username, try your ftp user/pass if it doesn't work you probably don't have access.
     
  8. Japan-Games.com

    Japan-Games.com Well Known Member

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    This is what someone in the vBulletin forum said:

    "from stats

    Max_used_connections 963

    that's ALOT.. for every site/account on server i'd imagine. Basically the server is overcrowded which means every site on the server suffers! While your forums are small, I suggest you mean to another web host."

    Does this sound like a lot to you?

    Thanks...sorry for the cross posting...
     
  9. abionic

    abionic Spirited Member

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    dont want to be a dick about it, but i'd suggest that you're over your head here and could do some real damage if you're not careful, better to ask your hosting company to take care of this stuff for you, or just don't do it. real sysadmin stuff is no joke.
     
  10. retro

    retro Resigned from mod duty 15 March 2018

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    What exactly is it you want to do with SSH? Are we just talking about a bog standard forum here? You should have no need to do anything with any of that - the few things that you may need to do you would have HAD to have done for the forum to install, and you'd have had to ask your host to do it for you.

    Where are you hosting?

    If you're experiencing slowness or problems with your site, then yes, you may want to move.

    I wouldn't recommend hosting your site yourself, unless a) you know what you're doing b) you have an internet line to pretty much dedicate to the hosting (can't really be used for gaming / lots of downloading!) and c) you have a static IP address (something you get off your ISP, which usually costs extra)
     
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