Super Fighter Q

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  1. spectrophillian

    spectrophillian Member

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    Not sure if this is the right place for this but its the closest i could find...

    So i bought a SNES and a Super Fighter Q, now i have 1,44mb formatted 2HD floppy disks which should work, but whenever i try to load em the screen will just hang on "insert disk" and nothing will happen... I really don't know what to do anymore. I checked the board inside the super fighter and verything looks fine to me :/ can anyone help plz?

    -Spectrophillian
     
  2. MyCrunkyBaby

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    a quick google showed other people having the same problems as you, but you should get a multimeter to check and see if all the data lines are intact, they may very well need some touching up or have been cut
     
  3. spectrophillian

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    All the lines are intact, i know it was working 1 week ago before i bought it from the person whom i bought it from.
     
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    It's probably a bad floppy drive, I had to replace mine.
     
  5. Calpis

    Calpis Champion of the Forum

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    Are you using an external power supply with it? If so, can you format the disk with the SPFQ? Can you backup an original cartridge? If not, do you know about PFQ headers? Are you having trouble with splitting games?

    Are you sure the floppy's molex connector is seated properly? If you're sure the BIOS is freezing then you should assume that there is cartridge pin/chip socket oxidation or PCB corrosion that has opened one of the BIOS' more significant address lines, obviously the data lines are fine if the unit does anything at all.
     
  6. spectrophillian

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    I replaced the floppy drive once already, now i get a popup "No Disk" whenever i click "run file", yes i am sure it is connected properly i am going to get a new molex connector even to be sure so that will be sorted out soon, i have no original cartridges yet ( coming in tomorrow >.<) the Disks have been formatted (Im really sorry but what is SPFQ? >.<), I do not know about PFQ headers, and what do you mean by splitting games? Im really sorry but im a bit of a noob on this topic >.<... Thanks for the quick responses though, really appreciate the help!
     
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    You didn't answer if you're using an external power supply with it. If you aren't you need to, but I assume you are since you're implying it worked for you before.

    The name of the copier is Super Pro Fighter Q/Q+ (SPFQ), unless you specifically have a clone called "Super Fighter Q". Most people drop the "Super" from the name (just about every copier's formal name starts with "Super") and call the line "Pro Fighters".

    Pro Fighter headers are almost but not 100% compatible with Super Magicom headers. For really early games ("LoROM"), they are, so for testing grab a dump of an early game like Super Mario World in "SMC" format. Make sure it has its header by verifying that the file's binary size is 524800 and not 524288 (meaning a 512 byte header) because ROM collectors over the years have stripped many copier headers but left the file extension alone.

    It's very unlikely that you need a new molex connector, I was just asking because depending on the components used during construction they can be allowed to be inserted backwards.

    It could be that your new floppy is incompatible with the disk controller, but that is very unlikely. Since this unit worked recently, and assuming you're operating it 100% correctly, I would look for PCB continuity and then finally logical faults.
     
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  8. spectrophillian

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    Well i now have a Super mario world rom on a formatted 1.44MB HD floppy disk, file extension .SMC and binary size 524800, does not work, still gives me the "no disk" message, this is another floppy than i previously used. And does the pro fighter itself need to be powered or does the snes also power the floppy? ( if so i will feel very stupid and get a connector...) and how many V would i need? can i use my 19V laptop charger for it or will that be way too powerful?
     
  9. spectrophillian

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    Ok i did exactly as you said, floppy and everything was fine just as you said it should be, so do i need to connect a power supply to the SNES and the pro fighter? or will the pro fighter tap power out of the SNES?
     
  10. MottZilla

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    The Pro Fighter has a power supply input too for a reason. It cannot get enough power from the SNES itself. You must use a proper power supply for both the SNES console and the Pro Fighter. If you have a Sega Genesis Model 1 power supply, the one that outputs 9 volts at 1.2amps you can probably use it to power the pro fighter. Otherwise consult the bottom of the Pro Fighter for what type of power supply is needed.

    It sounds like your whole problem is you don't have a power supply hooked up to the Pro Fighter.
     
  11. spectrophillian

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    Well i checked with the previous owner, he said he did not power the pro fighter and it worked fine...
     
  12. djelaba

    djelaba Benzin !, Site Supporter 2013

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    My Pro Fighter Q+ never worked without a power supply. The plug behind it is here for some reason ;)
     
  13. spectrophillian

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    i feel kinda dumb now... sorry for bothering y'all >.< thanks for all the quick and helpful replies.
     
  14. spectrophillian

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    So i get home, SNES worked 3 days ago, now it does not.. i got some original cartridges but all i can see on the screen is static (its an old tv) and when i connect the pro fighter it shows the same, though i have seen the pro fighter work 3 days ago, and now the snes suddenly stopped working?...
     
  15. MottZilla

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    Some SNES consoles can provide more power to the cartridge port than others. All SNES consoles aren't the exact same on the inside. You should always use the power supply for the Pro Fighter or any other copier to provide the copier its own power.

    Your SNES not working, does the power LED come on? If the Power light doesn't come on then it's likely the main fuse on the SNES board blew. This could actually be related to drawing too much current from the cartridge port I guess. If that is the case that the main fuse has blown, you'll need to either get another SNES console or have someone that is good at soldering electronics remove and replace the old fuse. Do *not* jury rig something to make it power on, properly replace the fuse.
     
  16. spectrophillian

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    The LED does come on. just doesnt show anything on screen.
     
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    Probably blew the fuse powering it off and on with the copier on it without using the correct or any power supply
     
  18. MottZilla

    MottZilla Champion of the Forum

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    No, when you blow the fuse I'm fairly sure the power LED will not come on.
     
  19. djelaba

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    My SNES became "addicted" to Pro Fighter. I couldn't use it without the Pro Fighter plugged in... I never knew what created such addiction :s
     
  20. spectrophillian

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    Wether i got the pro fighter plugged in or not, nothing appears on the screen, just brown nothingness...
     
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