Super Game Boy problems

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    reprep Gutsy Member

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    I plan to begin GB/GBC gaming soon. First i gathered the first pokemon series both on GB and GBC. I am now playing them on Gameboy Tower on Pokemon Stadium N64 and my AGS-101 GBA SP is on the way.

    After some research, i learnt that i won't be able to use super game boy border or effects etc on my GBA SP. Even if i buy gameboy player, the issue will remain the same. The only solution for using super game boy borders is actually buying a super game boy. (Well except for pokemon games played on Gameboy Tower)

    Wiki page says original super game boy plays the games 2.4% faster unless an appropriate crystal is added. Did anyone do this modification or is there any place which sells super game boys modified this way?

    Super game boy 2 which corrects this problem is way above my budget (i saw one over 100$ at ebay)
     
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    Thanks for the link. It contains good info on the subject. Maybe some forum member will help me on that as the last time i soldered something was 14 years ago.
     
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    There are probably many people who you can send stuff for soldering. Personally, I´ve sent some stuff to Bad_Ad84 and I guess if you live anywhere near UK and if he is still accepting solder jobs, then he could maybe help you too. It wouldn´t hurt to ask.
     
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    Yeah he is a helpful guy. Just wondered if i could get it pre-modded somewhere but the answer is probably no. I am pretty sure i can hear 4% accelerated audio and i will probably notice the 2.4% difference too, especially after i play the game in a gameboy advance SP which is accurate.

    Plus i have to get an NTSC SNES first, hard to get one here as we are PAL. and a charger too. Will i be good if i plug a PAL charger to an NTSC SNES?
     
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    I can buy one from ebay and mod it, then send it with your n64.
     
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    As far as I'm aware PAL power bricks output the same voltage DC as NTSC power bricks. You'd do best to check your brick first.

    I also have two NTSC SNES units available but shipping is likely in the $20+ range. Probably should drop SuperCICs in these things.
     
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    "a PAL SNES requires 9V AC 1.3A, whereas the US SNES requires 10V DC 850mA" i read.

    Well there are lots of bullshitting on internetz, so i can't be sure.
     
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    A PAL snes has a rectifier, which converts the AC to DC. If you use a DC PSU it stays DC. In short, the PAL console will take AC or DC just fine.

    My snes Jr (US) also has this rectifier and would take AC or DC just fine. I do not have a US original SNES but I would guess it also has one.
     
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    Thanks to Bad_Ad84, i got my problem covered.

    It is interesting to see so many people on internet being die-hard nintendo fans and telling people the best way to play GB/GBC games is to play them on super game boy but they are all playing them 2.4% faster where even the worst of other official solutions are fps correct.
     
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    I managed to pick one up from eBay for all of $20, I think. Look harder?

    EDIT: Just realized you're in a PAL territory. The one I picked up was NTSC. Sorry :(
     
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    Right. US SNES took its rating from Super Famicom, in turn Famicom. PAL SNES took its rating from PAL NES, in turn US NES.

    Super Game Boy 2 didn't reach PAL.

    The original model was an oddity. Same bootrom then set apart by its lockout chip. So bsnes (one of the few full SGB emulators) defaults NTSC for SGB emulation. Telling it otherwise is needed to see the 16bit mode of PAL Space Invaders.
     
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    reprep Gutsy Member

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    Well i would really like a link. I would surely buy a super game boy 2 for 20$.

    I will use PAL super game boy at 60 hz anyways. Normally if you use PAL super game boy on an unmodded SNES, you will see black borders on top and bottom (typical problem for PAL games) and the worst of it, you will play the gameboy games at 50 hz which are 60 hz (or 59.something) normally. So it wouldn't be wise to mod it for 2.4% speed when you lose 20% playing it in 50 hz.

    So a japanese super game boy 2 will do just fine for me.

    EDIT:sorry for plain wrong information.
    NTSC super game boy plays gameboy games 2.4% faster and PAL super game boy plays gameboy games 1.477% faster not 20% slower.

    Unfortunately PAL version hasn't been corrected for PAL resolution which means you will play your games with black borders on top and bottom of your screen. You can override this with forcing your SNES to 60 hz.
     
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