Super NES and Playstation 1 Doesn't Work on HDTV?

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  1. pauly800

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    Have an hdtv thats samsung 32'. I have an old snes and a ps1 system that i wanted to test out. I haven't played it in many years already. Reason is b/c i wanted to test if it will work so i could sell some of the old games i have. I have only a few ps1 games and tested it on an online emulator and it works. I was told a supernintendo games, u cant test those b/c they are cartdriges.As far as the tv goes, it basically have a plug thats connected to an outlet and an antenna that we connect it to the wall. We don't have cable tv so we bought one of those wall antennas to pick up free channels. A while back i tested my super nes in it and it worked. I think i unplugged the antenna and put in the one connected to my super nintendo and it worked. Does anyone know which im talking about? Its basically like a small rectangle thing that you connect to the back of the snes and you plug it to the same antenna in the back of the hdtv. Now when i do this, it doesn't work. Such as when i click power, nothing shows up I tried different mode such but it doesn't recognize it.I then tested my ps1 in my hdtv and even though it loads... example it shows sony entertainment... each of the games i put in doesn't load. It basically goes the memory slot screen. I then noticed then when i turned it off with power button, the cd doesn't spin at all. The thing with my ps1 is i connected those 3 cables the red, yellow and white one to the side of my hdtv. The antenna we have for our free channels, i left it there as the ps1 didn't have a cable that looked like the snes one which i have to pull out and then the system one into it. First off this is correct right?At first i couldn't get the ps1 to load until it went to AV2 mode. Is this the right mode? Only modes i see are tv, pc and av2. I had thought could it be AV1 but it says not recognized. Can someone tell me why i can't get my snes to work on my hdtv? The thing is i got it to work last time and im sure im pluggin the same cables in the same spots. Also does that mean for my ps1, it doesn't work if even though i see the sony entertainment message, it goes directly to a screen that shows memory card etc and when i power off, cd doesn't spin? I had the snes and ps1 for a very long time since they came out so yea its very dirty and not good shape. However, confused what im doing wrong with it here.Anyone got any suggestions? I know the ps1 games still work as i tried it on an emulator or computer and that worked.
     
  2. afccarl1994

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    For the SNES, check that the TV is set to receive analogue signals, and analogue tune the TV with the console switched on. The cable you are referring to is an RF cable.

    The PS1 sounds as if it has a laser issue of some sort, can't be of too much help with that. By the sound of it, you have it connected to the TV correctly.
     
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  3. pauly800

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    How do i check to see if it receive analogue signals? Im not sure how to do this with the snes. All i know is i got it to work last time and i thought im was doing it the same way with the configuration. Does this have to do with setting it to AV2? Because thats what i set it to for playstation and playstation loaded with the sony entertainment. However, the snes didn't work though...

    Is the way i plug the snes to the hdtv correct? Thus theres one plug that goes from the back of the snes to an outlet. And theres another cable that is the RF cable that connect to the back of my hdtv? Also that would mean i have to unplug my tv antenna cable and plug this one in right? Im sure i did it the same way like last time.

    Is there a reason the ps1 doesn't require me to unplug my tv antenna like the snes though ?

    If its some sort of laser issue, i assume it can't be fixed? I think it has to do with cleaning it?

    Also how much is a playstation 1 even worth now? I check ebay and it goes really little and was thinking about just selling it on ebay even for 10 dollars but from what i see, very few ppl buy it since shipping it cost another 20 dollars at least. I dont plan to play the playstation anymore so would u suggest just toss it away? It taking up a bit of the closet so i was looking to get rid of things.
     
  4. CRTGAMER

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    Why go RF when you can get SVideo or Composite with the SNES. Get at least a composite cable since your HDTV very likely does not have a SVideo input. Usually on HDTVs the Component and Composite inputs are shared (which is dumb), look for the yellow RCA (the green Y) as the composite input.

    [​IMG]
     
  5. iNanox

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    You can use scaler if u want hdmi out tho pic will look crappy
    The best way is to use old crt tv with scart input
     
  6. pauly800

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    Okay i will explain a bit here as why im confused.


    For the SNES, how many cables do i have on the back of it to connect to something else? Is it 2 or 3?


    I have the power adapter that is connected to the snes to an electric outlet


    I also have this small rectangle gray thing that i can connect to the back of my snes and it would go to the spot where i already have the antenna plug into it. I'm suppose to remove my antenna for the tv right and replace it with this one?


    Some of you mention about the red, yellow and white cable thats connected to the side of the hdtv. I do have this but the thing is when i look at the other end of it, it has PLAYSTATION ON IT. However, it fits. Is that the cable or it isn't?


    The thing that im really confused now is i had plugged the snes into the hdtv before and it worked. The only thing 100 percent sure is well first off, i used the adapter wire connecting snes to the outlet. But i was pretty close to 100 percent sure that small grey rectange thing connected to the snes... i did connect it to my hdtv. Can someone tell me if i have to do this or not?


    The thing is... i really dont recall connecting the red, yellow, white wires into the tv with the SNES.






    Also for my playstation 1. I know im putting the right wires in it because it works. You see the sony entertainment. Howver, i go to this screen where it say main menu and memory card cd player. I basically can't do anything much in that screen. I took a look at the playstation cd doesn't even spin. None of the playstation cds spin but i did test it out on emulator on my computer and THAT WORKS.


    For the playstation, i connect adapter to the outlet. My tv antenna is connected to hdtv like previously. I also connected the red, yellow, white wire to side of tv to the back of my playstation. I also had to make the tv go from TV MODE TO AV2 mode. Can someone confirm i have to go to AV2 mode to make this work? Only other option is tv and pc and obviously that doesn't work when i click power.


    Also i dont have channel 3. We have free tv using an antenna.


    So can someone explain me the snes setup and if im doing it correct? I was close to sure i didnt connect red, yellow and white wires to it a while back and got it to work. The reason is b/c if i did, i would have used the playstation one. That wouldnt even work though right? IM really confused b/c if it does require a red, white and yellow wire, i only have the playstation one.


    Also for the playstation if it doesnt spin and has that message, that means its going to take a lot of time to fix it or i have to buy something to fix it right? Obviously i wont do it as the playstation isn't even worth much anymore but i just wanted to test it to see if it would work.
     
  7. Venatus Usque

    Venatus Usque Site Supporter 2014, 2015

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    Do not use the Playstation AV cable (R,W, Y connectors) to connect your SNES to your TV, they are not compatible.

    SNES - how to connect to HDTV with RF switch.

    Disconnect antennae cable and connect the cable from the RF switch (your grey box) to the TV/Antennae input.

    On the back side of your SNES console, make sure the channel is switched to channel 3.

    Power on your TV, with your remote bring up the menu screen that has the options to select the input list. There should be an option for TV, select TV. Now use the channel buttons on the remote to either move up or down until you reach channel 3... or select 3 from the numbered keypad on the remote.

    Insert game and power on the SNES.

    Trouble shooting PS1 and repair:


    https://www.ifixit.com/Wiki/PlayStation_Troubleshooting#Section_Game_does_not_load_skips_or_freezes


    https://www.ifixit.com/Device/PlayStation_One
     
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  8. LeHaM

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    Talk to Yamako on here he sells Xrgb minis, the scalers built in to most "smart" TVs are shite.
    Its a worth while investment as you now have a tv that can take about any input :)
     
  9. CRTGAMER

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    Did you even research my previous post? Seriously, Google is your friend. Even looking at the back of your console it is obvious there is a separate NINTENDO cable (not Playstation) needed for video cord multi output. Please don't use the RF of the SNES that is the worst connection. You have a HDTV, why cripple it using the crappy RF antennae cables?

    [​IMG]
     
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  10. pauly800

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    Okay i got the system to work. But i didn't do this time was i didn't put it to channel 3 on the hdtv. I only had the rf adapter and the power adapter and that worked.


    Another question i have.


    I have 9 snes games. I couldn't get any of them to work until i blew into each game. I then got all 9 of these games to work.


    However, only 2 of those 9 games would load and then i could click start or any button to continue and actually play the game.


    The other 7 games... you can't press anything at all. Basically you see the game load etc but you can't press anything. And i'm sure it isn't my snes controller b/c i could press things on the other 2 snes games.


    Does that means my other 7 snes games doesn't work then? Well it does load but you can't press anything to continue. Is there a way to fix this issue?
     
  11. pauly800

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    I like to add that my snes is pretty dirty as well. I never ever cleaned it. However that shouldn't be an issue right since 2 of the games work when they load and i could actually click buttons and play?


    I read online that i could use a qtip and rub some alcohol into the games. Would that work or it wouldn't b/c the games do load when i blow on it but i can't press anything.


    Also i read online some ppl in forums suggest buying a cleaning kit. The thing is i dont want to spend 30 dollars buyin it as my purpose was to see if the game and system work and then sell it on ebay. And thus i dont want to pay 30 dollars for a cleaning kit only to find out it doesn't work at all.


    Also my playstation 1 doesn't seem to have the disks spin at all. I did test these games on an emulator and those games do work. However, there is one ps1 game where when it loads and plays, it freezes while on the emulator. Does that mean that game is probably no good? Thus i dont want to sell it on ebay if anyone buys it and then they said the game doesn't work.

    As for the playsation 1 system, i assume its not even worth it to buy the stuff to clean or fix it right because if i sell it, it seems like most playstation 1 don't even go over 20 dollars max and seems more like 10 dollars only on ebay. Would u agree with this? The condition of my ps1 and snes is pretty worn condition and has coloring.
     
  12. FireAza

    FireAza Shake! Shake!

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    Blowing into the cartridges doesn't actually do anything since dust is rarely ever the cause of the issue (in fact, the moisture in your breath can actually damage the cartridge). What's probably causing the games to sometimes start is simply taking them in and out, occasionally they make proper contact.

    The proper way to clean cartridges is with cotton tips and rubbing alcohol, as you heard.
     
  13. sonicsean89

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    Since you're trying to sell the games, I'd test the PS1 ones on an emulator (I usually use ePSXe) (and I know you said you have used emulators). For the SNES games clean the contacts in the cartridge with at least a q-tip (rubbing alcohol works well, but even rubbing the grime off alone helps), as for cleaning the inside board, another thread from this forum popped up in the search results (http://www.assemblergames.com/forums/showthread.php?23463-how-to-clean-the-SNES-cartridge-slot).

    If you're planning on selling the systems, fixing the PS1 is probably more costly than it's worth, so put it on eBay as a broken one, the SNES will probably fetch a bit, but you'll want to clean it first.
     
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    Hey. I tested the ps1 games on emulator already. I only have 4 games there and theres only one game thats worst anything decent and by that i mean at least 15 dollars on ebay. And yes the ps1 is probaly not worth fixnig. But heres another question though. If i sell it as is, let say i sell it for 5 dollars. How do i know much shipping will cost me? I see some ppl listing shipping for ps1 for 10 dollars, others list it for 15, then some for 20. Obviously i wouldnt want to ship it and then its going to cost me money in the end. I seen someone sell it for 0.99. Shipping is like 15 or 20 dollars. If thats the case, how is the seller even making any money? Does anyone know how would one know how much it cost to ship a system approximiately?


    Also how are they shipping the system? If they dont have original box, what boxes are they using for it? I threw most of my boxes out. The thing is with games, i could just buy mail bubblers but what about the systems? I heard usps and their boxes and apparently those are free from the post office but can you fix it inside though? Dont you have to still put those foam bubblers inside for protection? Seems to be way so much work to ship a ps1 b/c its worth very little. Even the ones that are good condition, it seems like most ppl dont pay more than 20 dollars max for a ps1 from looking at ebay.
     
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    Does this require me to open up the snes cartdrige though? I saw some video on youtube and i had saw you had to use screwdriver to open it up. I assume just taking some alcohol and wiping it left and right and just turning the game upside down without opening the cartdrige doesn't count as cleaning it? The thing is im worried if i open the game up, then i have issues putting it back together or just causing more damage.
     
  16. nilats

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    Using the rubbing alcohol and a cotton tip will clear up any surface dust or residue, you don't need to take the cartridge apart to clean that up. That said if there is any actual rust/corrosion or "gunk" on the connectors you will have to take them apart to really clean it.
     
  17. Venatus Usque

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    If rubbing alcohol is not working for you - consider using electric contact cleaner: Max Professional 2015 Contact Cleaner. I use this on all my game cartridges that I buy. Same process as with rubbing alcohol - use a q-tip.

    If you get to point where you need to open the cartridge - you will need a game cartridge security bit/screwdriver for the SNES; such-as: security bit

    Selling on eBay

    eBay has these requirements for all sellers: What are the requirements to sell on eBay?

    Before you can list your first item on eBay you'll need to:

    • Provide us with a valid credit card, debit card, or bank account information.
    • Let us know how you would like to pay your seller fees.
    • Select the payment methods you'll accept.
    • Make sure your Feedback Profile is public.
    We also recommend that you become PayPal verified.

    PayPal

    PayPal requires two payment methods - a checking or savings account and a credit card as a backup to pay balances if your personal checking/saving accounts are depleted.

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    If you cannot meet the above requirements - you will not be able to sell on eBay. You may want to consider selling on GameGavel.com. Auction/Seller site for gaming only. It may not have the exposure that eBay has, but it maybe easier for you to list on that site.

    In the event that you can sell on eBay and to answer your previous questions....

    You can set up your auction with shipping charges to be the responsibility of the buyer. As you setup an auction, eBay can calculate shipping charges for you or you can set the shipping cost yourself.

    Boxing your package.. very important to have a strong box with enough room to add some packing material for protection. Bubble wrap and packing peanuts are great, but if you don't have these - it's an additional expense. You can and use a plastic bag from Walmart to put your console in and use newspaper to pack the box or something similar. Make it tight so the items do not bounce around while in shipment.

    Boxes can be obtained from your local post office... or your local Wal-Mart / Kmart do have an aisle with shipping supplies.

    Additional cleaning tip - use an all purpose cleaner to clean the console. It will look better and may fetch a better price. If bought - your buyer will appreciate it.
     
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  18. pauly800

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    Will try the alcohol without opening the cartridge then.


    I actually have an ebay and paypal account for a very very long time already. I mainly use it to buy stuff throughout the years.


    Well i wanted to mainly know could i put a snes or ps1 into one of those usps free boxes or not...
     
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    You don't need to take apart the cartridge, just put a bit of rubbing alcohol on the cotton top and rub it on both sides of the connector, there's uaully enough room for it to fit. If you take the cartridge apart, then you can really get in there though.
     
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