Hey there everyone! I am in the process of buying a copy of Super Mario World 2 on Ebay. I have a PAL Snes, bought in Scandinavia. I was wondering if the SNES is like the NES, and divided in several PAL groups? Like PAL A, PAL B, etc? Or if it was changed with the Super Nintendo and PAL is just PAL, and I wouldn't have to worry about A or B? - Madsmaten
As far as i'm aware, there are no differences between PAL groups. Only differences are the 1-chip systems. I guess PAL is just PAL, yeh.
Okay, that's also what my research tells me, better safe than sorry. It's a pretty expensive game, so I would hate getting a "wrong region" one
http://www.ebay.com/itm/SUPER-NINTE...887?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_3&hash=item1ea19a5c87 I used a similar device that let me play US and JP games on my Super Nintendo. It worked great and buying most games from the US and Japan is much cheaper than the PAL versions.
I ended up buying american SNES's and American/Japanese SNES games in the end. They just play so much better than PAL. Only game I prefer in PAL is Super Mario World...probably because the in-game physics change by just a small amount when they "ported" it to PAL. The game just feels different when I play it.
We had regions on SNES but games work without fault (wasn't so with the NES >_>)... Some "regions" like france had exclusive releases like those of dragonball games in french for example.
Okay thank you, I can see why such a device or a US Super Nintendo would solve many problems, but I actually own a Super Everdrive with a DSP1 chip. And all the games from my childhood, is in PAL as well. So Super Mario World 2 would be the only real game I wish to own at the moment, since you cannot play it on a flashcard. On a side note, i'm not a huge fan of the design on the American Super Nintendo as well. Glad to hear that! That way I won't have to worry about getting a wrong region one
You could go for the Super Famicom instead as it looks like a PAL console visually. Or the SNES Mini/jr, which I think is the better looking console overall. I bought SMW2 in Japanese for like, £5. I have a sd2snes so I also had to buy it to play it.
I had the same issue of buying SMW2. The Japanese version is the cheapest, but it's in Japanese. I ended up buying the Korean Comboy version which was brand new and only £12 plus it is in English.
I am surprised you prefer the U.S. design since so many don't like it. I mean even though I use a super famicom with a converter for U.S. snes games I must admit U.S. system much more durable in terms of playing carts and taking abuse. Only reason I own a super famicom and not a snes was cause of a deal I got at a local book off when the staff working there at the time didn't know the value of things. I have the boxed japanese version of Yoshi's Island myself but kinda miss reading the story in english. Problem is here in the U.S. not quite as easy to come by and while not expensive not cheap either costing $25-35 loose depending on who you get it from. Here in the U.S. playing pal games is a nightmare cause pretty much all tv's here don't support 50hz unless your lucky enough to own a broadcast monitor which isn't actually meant for consumer use.
HDTVs tend to support PAL. Atleast all the ones I've used supported PAL. Your older CRT TVs here ofcourse won't support PAL and most don't like a vertical refresh rate less than 60hz approximate. However some sets will work with the refresh rate but they will not support PAL color encoding. Since most people just have HDTVs the whole PAL vs NTSC isn't a big deal. Ofcourse games still look awful on HDTVs generally. Unless you buy some fancy scaler.
Even then cart wise U.S. system much easier for playing snes and super famicom carts since slot is big enough to support both and all you have to do is break off two tabs that easily come off with some pliers. Using the converter for my snes games on my super famicom can be a pain at times being a huge issue when trying to use a super gameboy or game genie cause of the weight balance.
Yea it's funny when I was a kid and found out that snes looked different in other parts of the world and was called super famicom in Japan I thought it looked funny. But yea design of the U.S. snes wasn't greatest looking but we accepted it for what it was. The U.S version was designed that way to prevent people from putting stuff on the console causing spills and to be more shock absorbent for falls.
Consumer-grade American HDTVs do not support PAL. I have yet to see one that does. HDMI inputs also don't support 50Hz here but they will support 720x576p at 60Hz and even go down to 23Hz. The only way I was able to get any picture in 50Hz on my HDTV was through Composite video on my modded Sega Genesis model 1, set to 50Hz, and without the 50Hz color fix. What I got was NTSC50, which was in black and white, full of artifacts, and off-centered. I tried this on an old RCA ColorTrak CRT and got a similar picture, except it was rolling vertically and flashing rapidly. I have to use an upscaler for PAL devices on my HDTV. As to stay on topic(?), while the NTSC SNES looks horrible, it really is the best SNES you can get. Once you have the tabs in the cart slot removed, you can play Super Famicom games without an adapter. Combine that with a 1-CHIP system, the SuperCIC mod and a good RGB SCART/JP-21 cable wired for C-Sync, you have a really good SNES that can play games from anywhere without an adapter. Speaking of PAL consoles, anyway to replace +12V on pin 3 of the multi-out with C-Sync?
All of the hd tv's in my house work just fine in pal,of course it reads at 576 instead of 288 but that's expected. All I have is a pal snes but that's good enough for testing.
I decided to test this again. Apparently I had confused an older PC Monitor with TV inputs which did infact support PAL. However it was still a consumer grade Monitor, nothing special. I tested again with my Samsung HDTV. I got a picture in black and white and off-center vertically. But given the similarity of models sold in different markets I imagine some like Pikkon's do infact support both PAL and NTSC.
My old vizio even says 50/60hz on that back,usually cheaper hd tv's will support pal as there made for different regions but use the same parts. What funny is I have a new vizio that will work just fine on my component modded pal snes with a super cic in 576 but not in 480 via component,same with a sony bravia I use to have.
