System Disc on a Cart?

Discussion in 'General Gaming' started by MikeRWK, Dec 9, 2010.

  1. MikeRWK

    MikeRWK Spirited Member

    Joined:
    Dec 6, 2010
    Messages:
    104
    Likes Received:
    0
    That game never came out yet?
     
  2. MottZilla

    MottZilla Champion of the Forum

    Joined:
    Feb 1, 2006
    Messages:
    5,066
    Likes Received:
    102
    It doesn't bypass anything though. It runs off the cartridge doesn't it? This is nothing new. The Saturn will boot a program off the cartridge without any special verification. But the Saturn will refuse any read requests unless the disc has been verified by the CD-ROM controller to have the Sega security sectors on the disc. So having software running on the CPU is meaningless as far as running CD-Rs on the system.

    Atleast I haven't heard anything from legitimate sources that says otherwise.
     
  3. APE

    APE Site Supporter 2015

    Joined:
    Dec 5, 2005
    Messages:
    6,416
    Likes Received:
    138
    I'm about 99% sure the Dreamcast System Disc 2 works by authenticating using a specially written part of the GD-ROM disc that is readily viewable by the naked eye by impossible to copy with a standard cd burner. If memory serves the Saturn works the same way but don't quote me on that.
     
  4. Segafreak_NL

    Segafreak_NL v2.0 New and improved. Site supporter 2012-15

    Joined:
    Jul 29, 2004
    Messages:
    2,942
    Likes Received:
    55
    You're right! I totally forgot about POS (Police Officer Smith) And no, the game doesn't run from the cart alone so it actually DOES bypass something.
     
  5. MikeRWK

    MikeRWK Spirited Member

    Joined:
    Dec 6, 2010
    Messages:
    104
    Likes Received:
    0
    So theres deffinately something there, but the rockin b disc with demos and emus lets you swap in another disc with roms for the emulators and doesnt need verification, maybe does the POS game work like this? just reading the files it needs from the disc in a way the system doesnt authenticate the disc?
     
  6. Segafreak_NL

    Segafreak_NL v2.0 New and improved. Site supporter 2012-15

    Joined:
    Jul 29, 2004
    Messages:
    2,942
    Likes Received:
    55
    Yeah, that's quite possible.
     
  7. angelwolf71885

    angelwolf71885 Dauntless Member

    Joined:
    Jun 5, 2010
    Messages:
    795
    Likes Received:
    6
    what about replacing the lazier NOT the whole cd drive
    with a HDD interface connected to the lazier ribbon cable
     
    Last edited: Dec 11, 2010
  8. MottZilla

    MottZilla Champion of the Forum

    Joined:
    Feb 1, 2006
    Messages:
    5,066
    Likes Received:
    102
    The only thing I can think of for how you might get past the standard copy protection and read data from a disc that isn't licensed might involve the Video CD support. Kind of similar to the PS2 and ESR/Memento, I guess it may be possible to read disc data on a CD-R without a swap or mod. But to get an existing game to run would probably atleast require patching of the disc layout and maybe a custom loader like what was done on the PS2.
     
  9. MikeRWK

    MikeRWK Spirited Member

    Joined:
    Dec 6, 2010
    Messages:
    104
    Likes Received:
    0
    That would be ideal, a 160gb sata drive would hold pretty much everything.Have it boot to a menu or its own dash.
     
  10. angelwolf71885

    angelwolf71885 Dauntless Member

    Joined:
    Jun 5, 2010
    Messages:
    795
    Likes Received:
    6

    i doubt sata would be possible IDE is more likely

    USB is most likely

    because remember the lazier ribbon cable has at most 10 wires so we arnt going to be putting anything fast through it
     
  11. MikeRWK

    MikeRWK Spirited Member

    Joined:
    Dec 6, 2010
    Messages:
    104
    Likes Received:
    0
    With usb we could then use an external hd, it would be pretty nice.
     
  12. angelwolf71885

    angelwolf71885 Dauntless Member

    Joined:
    Jun 5, 2010
    Messages:
    795
    Likes Received:
    6
    yes but again sata isnt gonna be likely because just like the PS2 has issues with sata adapters the Saturn will be worse if not work at all

    we need to get kritz in here to talk about this
     
  13. MikeRWK

    MikeRWK Spirited Member

    Joined:
    Dec 6, 2010
    Messages:
    104
    Likes Received:
    0
    can always go ide
     
  14. angelwolf71885

    angelwolf71885 Dauntless Member

    Joined:
    Jun 5, 2010
    Messages:
    795
    Likes Received:
    6
    im not even sure about the IDE if you remove the whole CD drive you might be able to get IDE from that would still need an interface so the Saturn would think the CD drive is still there

    then some custom code on a cart to load from the HDD a os type interface
    and then play games from there
     
sonicdude10
Draft saved Draft deleted
Insert every image as a...
  1.  0%

Share This Page