System for checking Blu-ray Xbox one and PS4 discs for errors.

We are starting to get A LOT of Xbox One and PS4 retail games that look very good but still have disc errors. Many have install issues but others give us a problem at a later stage. By the nature of the blu-ray disc these blu-ray discs are difficult to resurface even with an expensive disc resurfacing machine.

Is there a quick way to verify these discs and check for errors without installing the game and playing every possible feature the game offers?

 

As in check if all sectors are good? If so Dvdisaster seems to do a very nice job doing such.

If we're talking about ripping to see if any issues are present - we'd need a leak of the disc gen tools by sony, and one can only imagine how bad that would be. I'd say check if the ps3gen tools works with ps4 related content but I can't say it will bring success.

Or we just wait for ps4 debuggers and devkits to be more accessible...

 

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Will Dvdisaster work wth Blu-ray discs?

I want a quick way to check retail games before I buy and sell them. If someone trades in 5-10 used retail PS4 games I'd only have a few minutes tops to verify each disc before making an offer.

 

It will check if it's 100% readable and return unreadable sectors if it cant read em. It works for me but I can't say if you wish to make a copy of a disc that it will work as you'd need a way to decrypt it (which is why ps3gen tools works for builds pre-final only - as the decryption is different for the retail builds)
However, because of the bluray nature, if it makes an iso of it it will be scrambled data for each file on disc (as copy protection should). I only suggest using it if there's reason to suspect unreadable data due to scratches on the back of said disc. If your PC drive cant read a section of it, do stay weary.

If you're wishing to verify the contents of a PS4 disc I cant say a tool exists for that quite yet.

In short - Dvdisaster will read the bluray discs, but will only return errors for sectors that could not be read if applicable. Making backups will not work due to no tool available to decrypt the scrambled ISO

Here's a test I did with my WWE13 build. It's on a bluray (single layer) and took just about 2-4 minutes to check every sector for readability.



And this is a CD-RW I have that's been thoroughly scuffed by my xbox. I burned a build that has issues to show what unreadable sectors would be like. As you can see in this it's currently reading and cannot read certain sectors - thus making this disc worthless since it would have read issues.

 

big thing here is scratches rarely take a blu ray out, its the data side of the label. I've had blu rays go bad cause of micro pits in the label. and anything that does verify the data will take more than a few minutes to verify if a single disc is good, if you are taking games in on trade in, make sure at least to hold them up to a bright light and see if you can see anything through the disk, if you can, don't take it. sorta like you would any other disc when worrying about damage other than scratches. the slightest dot will make the disc crap since Blu-Ray data is so tightly packed together.

 

I'm not sure what you are saying is true with Blu-Ray game discs. It is true with other formats for sure.

We use an RTI ECO Smart resurfacing machine here at the store. This is a higher end machine that cost us ~5k.
The repair rate with 360, PS2 and other DVD or CD based games is near 100% no matter how bad the scratches are. The repair rate with blu-ray games is at the other end of that bell curve. I've got several Xbox One games with no visable damage to the top surface that do not fully install.

We called the company that produces the resurfacing machine for advice. We were told this is the nature of the Blu-Ray disc. That there is a layer of protection on the bottom of the Blu-ray disc which is scratch resistant but that any scratch that does go past this layer is shot. If you can feel the scratch with your fingernail it is a lost cause no matter how perfect the top surface may be.

 

If I had realized this was business related I would have thought more.

The Bluray discs are produced with a special resin on the back that prevents scratching. However, there are discs out there that have issues almost immediately even if nothing is visibly wrong. I've also had issues with a disc having a corrupt/unreadable sector by my PS3 drive (was a preview build) and even though my PC drive reads it perfectly, the PS3 drive couldn't in this very small sector. There's a very very superficial scratch on the back of that disc where the issue lies as well.

I recall getting a disc of Dead Rising 2 from gamestop (my own fault but oh well). They shipped it from their warehouse and when I received the item it had some oil on the front side, tons of scratches on the back and what I assume was dried paste for the finishing process they used leftover on the middle ring. It was disgusting. Cleaned it off a little and popped it in. PS3 nor PC recognized the disc and if my PC cant read it then that disc is gone. I returned it for a refund, went to this other one got a copy and was by every way almost brand new and it was perfect.

If anything, if a disc has any immediate signs of scratching I want to suggest avoiding that disc. However, I am no businessman and as such this probably the opposite of what a store should do (assuming the idea is profit somehow). I say stay weary, but it's your call here as you have more experience

 

thats what i meant by scratches rarely taking em out. once you see the scratch on the bottom thats deeper then the protective coating, forget it
but alot of stuff gets buy with label damage, thats usually the culprit