System2 disc boot GD-Rs?

Discussion in 'Rare and Obscure Gaming' started by adam-james, Jul 18, 2005.

  1. adam-james

    adam-james Guest

    hey all,

    just got a rather tasty KATANA GD-R, the cool blue kind with an early build of Blue Stinger on it and wondered if i can boot it on a retail DC (Divers Series 2000) with a System 2 disc...

    Hope so, as my Set5.24 kit is in storeage.

    let me know!
     
  2. Fabrizo

    Fabrizo Resolute Member

    Joined:
    Mar 14, 2004
    Messages:
    933
    Likes Received:
    0
    System disc 2 doesn't have any purpose other then booting GD-R's, so i'd have to say yes, it should work.
     
  3. adam-james

    adam-james Guest

    Arh cool, i had it in my head it was mainly used to get around region protection or something...

    Also was a bit worried that perhaps the old blue kind dont boot on retail boxes... as the bottoms of the GD-R's look slightly diffrent.

    Infact, around the inside of the Katana disc, it says GB-R, not GD-R... even though it says GD-R on the front.
     
    Last edited by a moderator: Jul 18, 2005
  4. Mark30001

    Mark30001 Guest

    I've heard of the System 2 Disc. Is it an authentic that was made from Sega, or a homebrew CD?
     
  5. adam-james

    adam-james Guest

    It's official, and expensive!

    A run of 200 printed aparently, but im sure there must be more (ASSEMbler proberly has that many alone!)

    Not the most rare internal discs, but still very cool!
     
  6. Mark30001

    Mark30001 Guest

    I'm guessing there must have also been a System 1 Disc. How many rare internal disc were there anyway?
     
  7. Fabrizo

    Fabrizo Resolute Member

    Joined:
    Mar 14, 2004
    Messages:
    933
    Likes Received:
    0
    System Disk 1 was used to boot burned saturn games, just as system disk 2 is to boot dreamcast ones. Its a disk to make it easier to test the game quickly and easily on a retail system.

    The first system disk (for Saturn), came in two variations. The first allowed for 1st party games to boot, and the other for 3rd party games.

    Both the System disk 2 and one of the original system disks have been ripped and are available on the net.
     
    Last edited: Jul 18, 2005
  8. wombat

    wombat SEGA!

    Joined:
    Mar 14, 2004
    Messages:
    2,671
    Likes Received:
    319
    the ripped systemdisc2 doesnt work.. the official one does :)
     
  9. Mark30001

    Mark30001 Guest

    There're many different files of the System Disc on the net. There're some at 5 MB, others at 50 MB. Most are fakes...
     
  10. Fabrizo

    Fabrizo Resolute Member

    Joined:
    Mar 14, 2004
    Messages:
    933
    Likes Received:
    0
    Look for the one ripped by Belokk and you should find the working copy.
     
  11. LeGIt

    LeGIt I'm a cunt or so I'm told :P

    Joined:
    Mar 13, 2004
    Messages:
    3,439
    Likes Received:
    31
    Belokks didnt work either :p

    But anyhow, the system 2 disc only circumvents the GD-R lock not region protection, so you will have to use Japanese encoded GD-R on your machine as I'm sure the Divers has Japan region lock. If the disc doesn't boot it could be that it's NTSC-U or PAL encoded, there shouldn't really be any blame on the disc or the divers fault :)
     
  12. Yakumo

    Yakumo Pillar of the Community *****

    Joined:
    Mar 14, 2004
    Messages:
    20,515
    Likes Received:
    1,050
    Do the disc swap trip that Wombat made a video of. I play my PAL (so it says on the disc) Crazy Taxi beta on my Japanese DC by doing the swap trick. Works every time.

    Yakumo
     
  13. Tachikoma

    Tachikoma Officer at Arms

    Joined:
    Mar 13, 2004
    Messages:
    3,364
    Likes Received:
    17
    No guarantee it will work, I have PAL GDR's that won't boot on my PAL DC, and JPN and US disks that do.
     
  14. adam-james

    adam-james Guest

    looks like ill have to get the dev kit out then!
     
  15. wombat

    wombat SEGA!

    Joined:
    Mar 14, 2004
    Messages:
    2,671
    Likes Received:
    319
    Well you can boot the belokk disc indeed, but once you've changed the disc and closed the lid.. it won't boot your disc it will simply reboot your Dreamcast. So it is still pretty useless..
     
  16. adam-james

    adam-james Guest

    worked first time on the divers.. good thing too, would have seemed like a bit of a waste of time to get the dev kit out of storage just to play blue stinger... that was one of those launch titles i missed and always wondered about... now i can safely say its shite!

    still cool to have a ealry build on katana gd-r though.. i might pick up a copy and see if there are any diffrences. it cant be much money these days.
     
  17. PrOfUnD Darkness

    PrOfUnD Darkness Familiar Face

    Joined:
    Mar 13, 2004
    Messages:
    1,121
    Likes Received:
    48
    Does shit like CDX and Gameshark boots GD-R?
     
  18. hl718

    hl718 Site Soldier

    Joined:
    Nov 19, 2004
    Messages:
    2,856
    Likes Received:
    7
    No. You either use a System Disc 2 or use a swap trick involving the CD player (just like on the original PSX and CD-R).

    -hl718
     
  19. Paulo

    Paulo PoeticHalo

    Joined:
    Mar 13, 2004
    Messages:
    5,354
    Likes Received:
    7
    Yeah i wouldnt expect too much difference seeing as its a USA version and the game was a Jap launch title....
     
  20. PrOfUnD Darkness

    PrOfUnD Darkness Familiar Face

    Joined:
    Mar 13, 2004
    Messages:
    1,121
    Likes Received:
    48
    I see. Do you know why not? I mean, what is the difference between a ordinary GD and a GD-R? Maybe something on the ip.bin that avoid it to boot?
     
sonicdude10
Draft saved Draft deleted
Insert every image as a...
  1.  0%

Share This Page