you'd be surprised what some parents would do, a colleague of mine came in one day with his xbox, smashed down the center after his mom throw it out the door
I remember there being one instance where a kid was being REALLY bad, and drinking his parents' really expensive wine and crap. I think his mom sold his Xbox or something.
I am on the fence. I have seen what happens to kids that get everything and those who get the tough punishments. Its kind of weird being a 'tween' these days. When I was a kid approaching teens in the late 80's you weren't a complete outcast if you didn't get the latest crap because someone might actually enjoy your company. Yeh you were "cooler" if you had the best stuff, but anybody could squeeze themselves into some social sphere. Today "tweens" need a internet connection, online gaming (console and pc) and cell phone. If you don't have this stuff, you are practically non-existant in social circles (girls included). Nobody knows or cares about you becuase you are not participating in the accepted social activilty. I have seen it first hand today kids don't hang out in person. In my time if you wanted to play video games with friends a big group would go to somebodys house, but not so much today. Today its all digital communication between "tweens". I agree with punishments, but for young kids today removing something like a pc, xbox or cell phone can actually effect keeping friends. It is superficial but true (for those who live in cities where xbox360's cellphones and DSL are common among kids social circles) It has always been about what you have but today in addition to a car, nice clothes and spending money Tweens and teens need cellphones, DSL, online gaming and credit. Its likely twice as costly today to be "cool" and "accepted" even when inflation is taken into account.
well for kicking a $2000 stero and being an ass he deserves to be an outcast:lol: that nearly rhymed lol
Yeah, but I think giving him an empty box for Xmas is just cruel. It creates more hatred and distrust of parents. What I would do is just not give any gift, and if the $2000 stereo is damaged I'd explain that no more gifts would be forthcoming until he worked off/paid off the cost. But hell, what am I talking about? I don't want to have kids. ;-)
definetly nice one!!! if he doesn't treat his mother right, he does not deserve a 360, simple as that
hahahaha, Nice one ! I also know quite a few little shits who deserve such punishment. I know if it was my kid who treated his mother like shit and kicked my $2000 stereo (if I had one) then he's defiantly be getting an empty box!! That's the problem these days. Kids do what ever the hell they like since the punishment just isn't there any more thanks to all this Politically Correct crap. A good smacked arse never did anyone harm (after the sting went away). Please don't start about abused kids though. that's a different matter all together. I gave my nephew a whack a few months ago because the little bastard kicked one of my Dreamcasts because I said it was time to go. His father went ape (soft git) but his mother said he got what he deserves. Oops, bit of a digression there ! Yakumo
There was the same kind of thing on E-Bay last year I am sure Some mum/dad sellng their kid`s DS`s as they had been nasty.
It's NOT revenge but a way to teach the little sod what he can and can't do. If you let the kid treat him mum like crap and kick a $2000 stereo then give the little bastard a X360 for Christmas then he's going to think that he can do anything he wishes. I know it's harsh but sometimes some kids need to learn the hard way. He got what he deserves. And again, child beating is a different matter altogether. Yakumo
Well, Dr.lao you have your opinion and I have mine but let me ask you two things. Are you older than 20? If not then you still probably don't know your true views. I know I've changed an awful lot of my views for the better the older I became. Do you have or ever had any long term experience with children ? If you have then you'll know that telling a child NO isn't going to work even on the most best behaved of kids simply because they are kids. They may have hurt feelings for a few hours but the will do the same thing again in the future since kids can forget about a telling off easily. Now a smack is something they won't forget too easily plus something they defiantly wouldn't want to receive again therefore making them think twice before doing anything bad. In today's world there are far too many kids with attitude problems. The US is a major problem with the UK becoming one as well. What do you think about young 5 year olds telling their mother to fuck off ? Not very nice is it? Now if that kid received a smack every time he said it he'd soon learn not to unless he/she was an idiot. that's the last I'm going to say on the topic. We all have our own opinions so arguing abut them is pointless. Not that I am saying you are arguing. Yakumo
I completely agree. This "child abuse" from a good spanking is just bullshit. I know people my age who always got what they wanted... they're all complete pricks. The joke will be on them later on, though, since they always got what they wanted they won't know how to work for what they want/need.
I don't know... there is such a thing as emotional abuse of children and teenagers, and I've seen it happen. This sort of behaviour borders on it. Being creative in punishment does not fix problems, satisfying as it may be. Creating discipline and values from the beginning would have made these people avoid this situation, instead of turning the relationship into continuous power confrontations that just lead to both sides being hurt and hurtful. The kid and the parent are both wrong, in my opinion. The kid needed little doses of logical discipline from early on, not confrontation or revenge to make "justice" or something.
