The world famous unmoderated thread

Well, it would thrill me more than anything in this world. If Jesus and Maria Magdala had a child. And well just because James Cameron has made this documentary, then it doesn´t mean it isn´t real.

And then we all will know that the catholic church has lied all these years. And well, at least it isn´t the 1. of April, and second of all, so what if Jesus and Maria Magdala, had a child ?

But making a hoax like with all those caskets is something you don´t do . Since there are more, than just three caskets , but fuck it I don´t care. And if it is a hoax, then it is the most stupid hoax ever.

 

it's not like Jesus son of Joseph was one guy's name. It's like saying Jack son of John

 

http://dsc.discovery.com/beyond/player.html?playerId=203711706&bclid=537085188

As I have said before, if this is a HOAX, then it is a VERY stupid hoax. And especially mary amne, Mary (the mother) Joseph, James brother of Jesus (an old documentary) Jose brother of Jesus in the same tomb, and some other boneboxes.

 

you all should watch this:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8uBAPbOWLxc

and he's right.

 

Don´t worry, I love stand up comedy. And I don´t like fiction, so just to put you to rest, then I am very wary. When it comes to things like these. Since if it is Jesus Christs tomb, we are having, then I still think it is a great thrill. And if in about 5 months, every body laughs in the face of us. And tell us, well we just just fucked you over bigtime. Then as I said before then it is a VERY stupid hoax.

And to put at ease, just a bit more. I am not a Christian in the modern sense, but in the most traditional sense of anything. And that is I believe in God, and I am a humanist. Since that is what Jesus was. And I don´t believe in Jesus as a son of God.

my three words will be this.

God humanism and Karma.

And all of them are present in the new testament. And maybe JC was in India some time in his life, and had a little whiff of some common herb. And he had heard alot of the budhistic teachings, and then he went back and said "I am the light" vs. Siddhārthas saying "I am the enlighted", that is too close. To be a coincidence. Out of the ordinary sense. But since there is no proof of what I am saying, then again I can only say, it is very odd. That many buddhists are reading the new testament. But again, it is just so ordinary isn´t it ? ;-)

 

i m all for people believing what they want, it's a free world and everyone is entitled to their own belief

every person has a different thing that makes them tick.


it's shoving it down people's throat i dislike, and well, the money bit.

On the academics of any version of the Bible it should be noted that there was a Select Commitee in Alexandria some hundred years after the Jesus bang, led by Athanasios The Great (Megas Athanasios), who decided what belongs and what doesn't in the book. Censorship here and there, and then there's the Vatican,and i need not make more mention of their policies and politics.

what is scary though is that religion can be like opium as a famous communist once said

 

Yup I know that, I saw some great documentary about it. And the main issue in that documentary was about the Judas gospel/testament.

Hey did you know it was a Dane who translated the gospel of Thomas ?

And well the other people who were there back when the gospel of Thomas was translated got kicked out, except for the Dane ?

Very true I must say.

Mine is homophobia, but that you maybe already have found out.

Don´t worry I won´t shove anything down your throat, since I hate those people too. Jehovas witnesses make me tick too, and their stupidity. But a fun thing is, the last time I saw the Jehovas, there I said to them, that they should fuck themself to hell, and then I overheard one of them saying to the other stupid twat of a Jehova, that he should find out where I lived, and write it down. So now I know I am blacklisted from their serving rounds

Oh yes, I do understand you on this point.

 

Humans are the root of all evil. It's human nature. We have been using religion to project that almost all of our human behavior. It's just a matter of self control.

 

yeap. same thing with laws.

when governments kill people for oil it's not murder. When johnny kills jack for a bucket of candy , it is.

That's not fair. I want a license to kill too. My reasons are as important (or.. NOT) as any government's

 

Religion is only a smoke screen, becos anything can replace it: the source is obscession itself.

I mean take a look at christianity: if you take all the holyness out of it and view it as an atheist is just a weird cult made by a crazy carpenter and a bunch of hobos that may or may not be drunk.

If you get obsessed enough as to go against the basics of common sense then you got yourself a religion.

When I see fanboys (of bands, trademarks, trends, even games) all I see is some guy who replaced his traditional faith for another, unconventional one.

And at the end, what is faith anyway? the capacity to become so crazy as to kill someone who's against your belief?

You cant destroy the need for a religion, but you can keep it down to a safe minimun.

 

The following link is about the War in Iran.

http://www.globalresearch.ca/index.php?context=viewArticle&code= CH20060103&articleId=1714

The piece has been written by Michel Chossudovsky who is Professor of Economics at the University of Ottawa and Director of the Center for Research on Globalization, at www.globalresearch.ca .

 

"I am the light" and "I am enlightened" do not have the same meaning. An enlighted person has 'seen the light' but is not 'the light'.

It is plausible that Jesus would have heard about Buddhism but the root of his teaching is Judaism. Most religions have similarities in their teachings and base set of rules - Islam even shares a lot of beliefs from Christianity including Jesus and the second coming.

 

religions build upon each other for added credibility amongst their fans.

My advice to someone would be, live your life any way you want, religion is more of a guideline, like the three little pigs, if anything. I d classify it in philosophy and not something to be obsessed over.

 

Many times religion has been used to excuse the acts of human nature. There is no teaching I have read that commands me to kill or to negatively affect the lives of other people.

I believe that all religious texts contain information, knowledge, rules that can be valuable for us. It is their underlying message that is important, not the stories or parables they use to provide that message. Whether you believe in God or whoever is down to personal choice but to aspire to live a life with compassion, love, honesty, self sacrifice and humility is surely a good thing.

If everyone did that then the world would be a much better place.

 

if everyone did that, I could sell more bibles ^_^

 

People , no wonder why I see religion as a personal matter. And the most simple of it all, is forgetting Paul(us) aka. former Saulus, since he can fuck a mind up like shit on a string, so if you rip out his fanatism, and say "ok I believe in God, and Jesus was a humanist, who knew alot about this and that, perhaps had smoked some common herb, listened to the budhistic teachings".



Heck no one knows where the fuck he was, from he was in the synagoge, til he was about somewhere in his thirties. That is why my hypothesis, that he had been in India, and smoking some common herb. And went down with the budhistic teachings. And back then a trip to India wouldn´t have taken years, heck it was like his "backyard" man.

But heck, I have no proof of it

But me ? I believe in God, I am a humanist, and is living by the karma rules. It is just sad, alot of people can´t live like that. Since religion can really fuck you up, in a very bad way. No wonder why I don´t go up in it.


I am not going to show anything down in someones throat anymore, since that leads only to bad things.

But hey religion is religion , and peace be with it.

 

Oh, but don't get me wrong.

I firmly believe that people have a free mind and a free will to act and think as they sit fit!

It is the disrespect of that idea of free choice, and the introduction of concepts of blackmail such as Hell, Purgatory etc, which are the elements I think are negative (in my view) about dualistic religions.

 

OK, where was I? yes, I did make a mistake: I should've specified fanatic muslims, but I thought you would get the idea anyway.

My cousin Jim went to france last year and while he wasnt in Paris during the riots, he was able to talk with some of the locals.

The thing is, is really a bitch to live in those ghettos, becos if you're a muslim you dont get a job anywhere, and that affects the honest muslim citizen.

The problem is this whole "tolerance" policy: criminals get a way out becos they appeal to their religion and/or social situation, but that doesnt mean the other part of the population wont look, not at the individuals but at the entire community those criminals belongs to, with certain bad thoughts.

So whats the problem? that Hassan who was a good student and graduated at top of his class cant get a job becos hes a muslim and even lives in a ghetto, and becos his boss friend got mugged by a guy that may or may no be a muslim but didnt go to jail, so now he doesnt likes to employ muslims.

Now Hassan is unemployed, and since everyone thinks hes already a criminal he starts being a real criminal. So the crime rates go up, and before you know it some right-wing smuck like Sarkozy gets to be the favorite (I know about the ballotage, but he did get the higher vote count) in the next elections. If he fuck things up then people is going to vote for an even more extremist candidate, like LePen.

And at the end every guy who believes in Mohamed ends up paying, even if he respect the local law above his own religion and didnt make anything wrong in his entire life. And all thanks to a bunch of fanatics that use their religion and the tolerance policy as a shield for their own criminal acts.

This tolerance policy, much like the hate-crime policy in america, doesnt works, for the simple fact that even if the law can forgive you, people wont, and gossip travels faster than truth, so when a muslim or any other minority does something right, one guy may talk about it, but if he does something wrong, then 50 or 100 guys will talk about that...

If some guy does something wrong he should go to jail no matter if he's white, black, brown, christian, muslim, jewish, etc... The moment we begin to lose our law is the exact moment we start losing control of our society.

If you dont get that then I'm out of this debate, period.

 

Sir please move the message to the right thread Since it fits more there And don´t worry about your statement since why I wasn´t saying my opinion was because it could be twisted and turned by people, so it would seem I am on the extreme right, and again my language would probably be doubted again, and the same with my sources . So please move the message to the right thread

 

Yeah I get your point, anyway, what you mean with the right thread?

If you mean the VT one, I went out cuz the OT was way too much, this is the thread for political discussion.