Just because we raised money for sonic, does not mean anyone can do the same thing. This is not a trolling ground to get money for your betas. I even stated that people need to contact me before asking. From now on, I am going to forbid any kind of fundraising without permission. Sonic xtreme was a special game, with special terms. Please keep all discussion money free, we do ONE release at a time and to have so many simultaneous attempts to sell things reeks of exploitation. Kevin
Agreed, I would faithfully donate to possibly a few... *maybe* a few such projects.... as I did with xtreme. Anything more and it would feel like my good will is being abused. I'm sure many folks think along the same lines.
I think I missed that; but, i want to apologise because i was the person who initially suggested it in another topic - sorry Assembler.
My bad for the topic made regarding Worms, the specific rule about this kind of 'behavioir' I probally mis-read. Becouse I did checked out the rules when posting the topic. I'm sorry for the c*ck-up. Close the topic indeed needed; altough the topic is progressing in its goal. So I would apreciate it you keep it open.
If thats how you feel I think you should lock the whole forum and take emails like you said until you find the one you want to ask us about. THEN reopen it to discuss the game at hand.
I really don't think there is a problem with discussing the possibility of other releases. I mean it didn't really feel like it hurt anyone. I definitely agree that sonic xtreme was a special case and we shouldn't abuse this new fourm, but I see no problem with the discussion of the possiblity of other fundraisers. I mean this part of the community is enclosed, to a certain few already and those members thus far haven't really proven that these topics are hazardous or exploiting. If a topic does get to the point where this is obvious, I think it should be taken care of, but otherwise I have no problem with it. In fact, the more discussion the members of this group have, the more interesting things can pop up. I mean take the violent seed topic. While it started it out as a possible fundraiser, it also then started to lead into other new interesting ideas, such as ways to find the game without forking out money. Or just plain interesting discussion that allows members to gage the interest for different things. The point is I feel that by limiting discussion of games involving money, we are limiting potential discussion and discovery since so many interesting unreleased games out there warrant money. What I think should happen is that discussion of these games that could potentially involve fundraisers should not be limited. However, perhaps before ever taking these "discussion topics" to being "offical" fundraiser, it simply needs to be cleared with assembler just so no one goes crazy. Am I crazy? Or does this make a bit of sense.
I just don't see how its possible. The meaning for this section is to discuss community dumps funded by the group yet we can't discuss money which is the price asked and the funding? To me thats the most important step. If the price isn't right or you don't have enough people willing to go in on it then whats the point of the games discussion at all? If there is no point then close this all up except for one thread discussing the one game thats currently "ok" to discuss in this case sonic.
I don't think the meaning of this place is to discuss community dumps funded by the groups. It's more like a place to get people to volunteer stuff for release, if I get it correctly.
The point is to facilitate community dumping without the need for extensive fundraising. Volunteering is the key here --- personally, I am open to fundraising should it be something ASSEMbler deems worthy for.
I thought we can still talk about different games but cannot have fundraising for them without permission. I think what Nitrosoxide said is right because I feel we would only be limiting ourselves in finding new games if we was only allowed to talk about what is ok. Volunteering is great, but I don't think it would work very well if we only had fundraising for what ASSEMbler deems worthy for. I just think sometimes we all see an items worth/interest differently.
No one is advocating extensive fundraising. People simply have pointed out the possibilities that are around. I definitely hope more people volunteer their unreleased games. But, whose to say when that will happen, its more of an out of the blue sort of thing that doesn't apply to all games. So there's no harm in discussing those other games. I do advocate some sort of control on how fundraisers will work, perhaps Assembler or a responsible and trustworthy member facillitating the way money is collected.
The above statement is more along the real idea. "Funded by the group" is another matter, and is an option, not the rule. Not every project is about throwing down hard cash.
So your fine with us discussing the possibilities of new ventures as long as its somewhat approved by you before taking it to the stage of fundraiser as in "fundraising by the group"
I think what he's getting at is more like donating your dumped betas to this community instead of trying to collectively purchase one for dumping. People are welcome to offering new dumps - just not welcome to asking for us to raise cash for it to happen (unless express consent is provided prior to posting).
