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  1. Vosse

    Vosse Well Known Member

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    What did Sega Europe even develop?
     
  2. rewak

    rewak Peppy Member

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    I don't think they developed anything, i think outside developers made the games and Sega Europe did the distributing and promotion part only. Might be wrong there though.
     
  3. dark

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    I took a look at the credits in the manual for Metropolis Street Racer for Dreamcast. I thought I heard that this was Sega of Europe's baby, and even though primary dev was done by Bizarre Creations, Sega Europe poured lots of money into it and wanted it to be a killer app reflecting well on Sega Europe. Among the credits for Sega Europe are hardware and technical engineers. Also, as everyone knows, Richard Jaqcues, of Sega, did the music soundtrack for that game. So I can imagine that outside of marketing and distribution, Sega Europe actively collaborated on the game as musicians and hardware consultants to help Bizarre Creations maximize use of the DC hardware - especially when you compare the early 1999 videos of MSR to the finished product (the quality level appears to have changed a great deal)
     
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    jp. Be Attitude For Gains

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    Everybody Su-per Sonic racing, try to keep your feet right on the ground! When you're Su-per Sonic racing, there's no time, to look around!
     
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    Druidic teacher Officer at Arms

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  6. rewak

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    Well they've apparently done a Shenmue 1+2 HD port and they're just sitting on it, so that right there kind of sums up their business decisions lately.
     
  7. Jamtex

    Jamtex Adult Orientated Mahjong Connoisseur

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    The last big game that they did as an internal studio was Sega Rally Revo. Although they sold the studio that did that to Codemasters.

    They do own The Creative Assembley (who will be 25 years old this year and are famous for the Total War series) and Sports Interactive (Football Manager, a game that always goes top of UK all formats chart on release) so games they made in the last few years have been Sega Europe games.
     
  8. slayer2k8

    slayer2k8 <B>Site Supporter 2011</B><BR><B>Site Supporter 20

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    As said back in the early days Sega Europe were a joke even upto the dc
    They had a tiny budget and were treated as an after thought much like Nintendo Europe
    But they really seemed to sort themselves out buying up Sports Interactive Football manager is always top of the charts and has huge sales
    Creative Assembly was another with the massive Total War series which as well as highly acclaimed has huge sales
    The main thing is these are pc titles not console
    I'd say there output has been pretty good given the resources
    There doing a new Aliens game which looks good hopefully they'll build on these franchises with new ip
    they've gone from just mainly publishing to developing and publishing

     
  9. Johnny

    Johnny Gran Turismo Freak and Site Supporter 2013,2015

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    Actually Gearbox is developing Aliens Colonial Marines. Sega will only publish it.

    The Real Sega died a long time ago. Call me crazy, but their best years were during 80's and 90's Arcade / Master System / Mega Drive years. Anything good they made after that was just an exception.
     
  10. slayer2k8

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    Whilst i don't doubt Gearbox is doing a Aliens game Creative Assembly is also making an aliens game
    I think one's a squad based fps not sure who's that is?
    Does Sega have much of a pc presence outside the UK/Europe not counting the cheap saturn ports?
     
  11. 7Force

    7Force Guardian of the Forum

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    Virtua Fighter, Daytona USA, Sega Rally, Virtual On, Panzer Dragoon, Virtua Cop, House of the Dead, Shenmue, Crazy Taxi, Phantasy Star Online, OutRun 2, After Burner Climax...yeah, I'm gonna call you crazy if you say all that and more was just an exception.
     
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  12. Jamtex

    Jamtex Adult Orientated Mahjong Connoisseur

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    Hmm Virtua Fighter, Daytona USA, Sega Rally, Virtual On, Virtua Cop, House of the Dead, Shenmue, Crazy Taxi were all 90s arcade games... which Johnny already covered. ;)

    Panzer Dragoon and Shenmue were also 90s games.

    Phantasy Star Online was made in 2000 and Out Run 2 was a fun game but not really a classic, ditto Afterburner Climax. So that is one game... Seriously you have to go back 10 or more years to really think of good Sega games.
     
  13. 7Force

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    He said "80's and 90's Arcade / Master System / Mega Drive years" which would technically cover Virtua Fighter 1 and Daytona USA, but the rest of them would fall into the Saturn and DC years.
    I'd totally call Out Run 2 and AB Climax great games, especially since the 2000s haven't exactly had a lot of great arcade games, and those are easily on par with Sega's best from the 80s.
     
  14. Segafreak_NL

    Segafreak_NL v2.0 New and improved. Site supporter 2012-15

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    Super Monkey Ball, F-Zero AX/GX, Ghost Squad, VF4 & VF5, Panzer Dragoon Orta, Sonic Generations, Skies of Arcadia to new a few. I thought Sega Rally Revo was really good as well.
     
  15. 7Force

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    How did I forget Super Monkey Ball and F-Zero GX? Loved those games, and Skies of Arcadia was good too. VF4 & 5 and Panzer Dragoon Orta weren't on my list because I only listed franchises, otherwise the list would've been cluttered with a million games from a few of them. Sega Rally Revo was crap though, but SR3/Online Arcade was good.
     
  16. HEX1GON

    HEX1GON FREEZE! Scumbag

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    Revo was -okay- but no where as near as the one on the Saturn.
     
  17. Johnny

    Johnny Gran Turismo Freak and Site Supporter 2013,2015

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    Like i said, there were great games after the 90's, but they weren't in big numbers like they used to be. Of course i love OutRun2, AfterBurner Climax,.... VF4 Evo to me is one of the greatest fighting games ever made.

    But there's no way to compare "old" Sega to 21st generation Sega. I grew up watching Sega as the king on arcades and a big company on consoles, side by side with Nintendo.
     
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  18. Vosse

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    Oh Ok. Thanks for the info
     
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