While my triforce adventures, I've figured out a way to use them without a GDROM drive. Basically, you can upload your game into the DIMM memory, do some crypto foo, some hacking, and the triforce runs that game. It's fucking convenient for piracy. You don't need any specific security pic anymore (just any one with a known key), and you can play games from all regions - all you need is the decrypted payload file. It's completely transparent to the game, as, even in the original system, the GDROM is never used after booting the game (as the game is loaded to memory). Basically I developed this to make any use of my triforce which had a broken GDROM and I couldn't fix it. So, what do you people think? Should I release this software, i.e. can the triforce be considered as "dead enough" that nobody cares? Is piracy an issue in the arcade world, i.e. are operators really trying to save money by warezing games? I want to avoid what's currently happening with the 360 devkits, where everyone wants those just to play pirated games. It just seems to be such a waste I don't want to have any personal or commercial gain from this project. I'm just not feeling good releasing a piracy-only tool. OTOH, other people are working on similar solutions (for example so you could use CDROMs). The advantage of my method is that on the hardware side all you need to do is to flip the "satellite" jumper. (I'm basically emulating the host software, with some additional tricks to patch away region locking and re-encryption) Plus, technically, it only works on Type-3 boards, i.e. not on those with the deteachable dimm board. Do we have an exhaustive(!) list of triforce games with their release dates?
Actually I think that's about it. Just a handful of games for the system. Being able to disable region lockout is probably the feature most Triforce users have been waiting for. Great work. Releasing the tool? I don't know. Virtua Striker 4 2006 is still selling for 500 USD and more. It could be an issue for some arcade operators.
Yeah, I have mixed feelings about a general release too. Although I would directly benefit as I have an EXPORT bios mobo (regrettably one with the detachable DIMM boards - groan!) and just about to purchase JAPANESE titles. There is very little information on the unit available anywhere and I am amazed anyone has bothered to mess around with it as there are so few titles. It appears to have been the least utilised motherboard ever lol. Given that it was developed by 3 leading manufacturers, you'd have thought they'd have done more with it. Well done though! I really want to find a way to use my EXPORT with Japanese titles.... or swap the EXPORT unit for a Japanese one (if anyone is interested).
I think the Hyper NeoGeo 64 wins that one, only 4 titles! (well, 7 if you buy another two mobos). Rubbish :lol: Stone
Konami M2 6 games Hyper Neogeo Fighting 4 games Hyper Neogeo Driving 2 games Hyper Neogeo Shooting 1 game Konami QG 1 game There are lots of systems that were only used for one game. Konami GQ is the pre release playstation chipset with a scsi hard drive ( the same chipset as used on early namco system 11 boards ). As triforce, m2 & gq are console based systems & hng has a personality disorder then I'd disqualify it. I'd say triforce is still too new.
5 games, not 6. Same hardware, so that makes 7 games, even if you can't swap them. Prototype hardware... ;-)
Great job! I would be very intrested in this as I have a type 3 Triforce on my shelf which I still haven't done anything with! But in your point of view I understand that it may be better to not release it. EDIT: whoops, typo
I am all for the release of such a tool. Being an avid nintendo fan and living in Greece, where arcades as you may know aren't that popular (they were banned), I see no harm whatsoever in utilising such a tool. I am for a release, even if its a limited release.
I have a question. Any chance you figured out enough to get the triforce to boot a normal gcn elf maybe? Just currious. Over all i'm iffy on your tool. I think it's fantastic work but also I worrie about what it means for other systems (like can it be applied to naomi1/2/sega boards that use dimm setup). Over all I would say the triforce is close to death but maybe it needs a few more years before something like this comes out. At the same time I dout this will effect arcades much and at most would actualy result in a boost in sales of the hardware by private collectors who would be buying the hw to try this out.
Arcades aren't really that popular that such a move would kill them. It's not the same to play at an arcade and to toy around at home - it's a different order of magnitude. I think it's a useful tool with no foreseeable harm really.
I have to disagree. To see no foreseeable harm is to be blind to the multiple posibilities that could happen. Such a tool will most likely make no impact on arcades but it posibly will on the private collectors market. As well who knows, again this hack/tool could posibly be applied to other arcade boards that use the GD/Dimm setup which can result in a pretty big problem (some of thoes boards are actualy still seeing software). I do understand the difference between playing at an arcade and playing at home. I do happen to have a capcom candy cab sitting off to my left. :thumbsup:
As a private collector, hence a concerned party as you may put it, I am keen to experiment with this tool. If others are not as responsible then it should just be available to those who are and aren't against it
Tri Force motherboard (version type 3) Sega or Capcom I/O board Sega GDrom & DIMM board, plus cables Supergun of choice PSU of choice VGA monitor & speakers to suit OR Naomi Universal / Net City cab... just swap Naomi motherboard for Tri Force and include GDrom.
