TSOP Flash Tool

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  1. hl718

    hl718 Site Soldier

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    Anyone have a wiring diagram for a TSOP programmer?

    I've got a box here with a bad flash. Perfect hardware, just a bad flash. And I'd like to get it repaired.

    Failing that, anyone have a source for an old style 26 wire modchip and the associated programmer?

    Thanks in advance.

    -hl718
     
  2. LEo

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    Well installing a modchip basically replaces the tsop. So get a duox on their with cromwell then flash your hacked or dev bios
     
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    If I use a chip I need to be able to disable it on the fly (as can be done with the original 26 wire chip) after boot and then reflash the TSOP properly. I didn't think any of the "smart" mod chips with multiple banks could do this, if they even work with the MCPX X2 boards. Don't they require MCPX X3 boards?

    It's more a matter of just wanting to restore an otherwise fine piece of hardware.

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    Pikkon "Moving in Stereo"

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    Hmm,do you mean 29 wire modchip.
     
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    That's probably correct. I never had the need to deal with chips for retail systems. Got the box from a friend awhile back. Some idiot tried to flash a EvoX BIOS to it. Of course that didn't work.

    By the time I got it the 29 wire chips had already been phased out by resellers and I'd been advised that the new "smart" chips wouldn't work on a X2 board, let alone the fact that they can't simply be shut off on-the-fly. As a result the box sat in a box.

    I'm being told that I need to make space though so that means either fix it or kick it and I'd much rather fix it. ;)

    Since I know exactly what the problem is, I also know that reflashing a proper BIOS will revive the board. It's just a matter of figuring out the easiest way of getting the BIOS onto the TSOP. Were I a bit better at soldering I'd just flash the BIOS I need to a retail system and then swap the TSOP chips but sadly, I can't hand solder surface mount. Just not that good.

    -hl718
     
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    Shakey hands?
     
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    I could solder the points fine, the amount of wires and mess it created was impossible to manage though.

    -Doom
     
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    Well you could always desolder the chip, reflash it in a programmer and then resolder it. ;)

    The chip Pikkon linked should do the job, assuming one can get a dev BIOS into the 512k bank. After all the chips don't ship programmed.

    -hl718
     
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    Christ why are you getting a 29wire chip when a 1 wire one does the job. Well not one wire but still its 1 if you only count the D0 point since the rest of the conections go on the LPC.

    get a duox chip and flash what you need
     
  13. hl718

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    It was always my understanding that if you boot the system via a chip connected to the LPC port that any attempt to flash will flash the chip on the LPC and not the TSOP.

    So while a LPC chip would allow one to get the system up and running (you'd still have to program it outside the system on an external programmer) I don't believe it would allow you to return the system to "stock" condition, which you could do with a 29 wire connection.

    -hl718
     
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    I need to read a little more before I post :DOH: I missed your second post, ignore that post^
     
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    No worries. It happens. I've made the same mistake before.

    For most situations something like the DuoX is ideal. Unfortunately I have one of those "non-ideal" situations. ;)

    -hl718
     
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    Retail BIOS will not work on a dev kit.

    That's what messed up this one in the first place (as mentioned earlier in the thread). ;)

    -hl718
     
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    Soldering is not so bad. I use acrylic to hold down the strands real nice.

    Traces on xbox are huge compared to doing a ps2 slim.
     
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