Upgrading to 16gb's of ram

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  1. ASSEMbler

    ASSEMbler Administrator Staff Member

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    Let's be real, he's not running a search engine or database that needs ultra fast reads, to the average person the difference is imperceivable.

    Windows 64 os itself on average uses 1.5GB of ram. So unless you are
    using something like photoshop you are rarely going to ever peak 6gb let alone 16gb.

    32-bit applications ( a majority of those run in windows, even win 64) cannot allocate more than 2gb of ram, even though the OS can use far more.

    Anything over 6gb and not involving database or virtualization is a waste in today's OS environment.
     
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    I run 2gb of ram and find it perfectly acceptable (but I do have 2 ssds in raid..) so you can see where I am on the memory matter. But if you are gonna say things like ssds are as fast as ram, it needs to be correct (which it's not).
     
  3. sanni

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    [​IMG]

    i think it's very funny :lol:
     
  4. Trenton_net

    Trenton_net AKA SUPERCOM32

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    Well, it all depends on how much memory you give to each VM and how many you plan to run. I suppose we differ on those numbers. But I totally understand where your coming from. (^_^);
     
  5. splith

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    You can use more than 3GB in x86 OS's, linux allows 16GB using kernel hacks (you need to customise and compile your own kernel) and not sure on what the 32-bit windows limit is, but you'd need to use PAE which gives extra bits to your RAM for addressing and takes them away from other things (depends on motherboard), usually your GFX card. That's why you always get crappy GFX chips in servers that run x86 but allow > 4GB RAM but workstations that have decent GFX but don't allow > 4GB because it normally messed them up, pretty badly.

    And your screenshot there of CPUZ is showing you what the BIOS is picking up, the BIOS reads the EEPROMs on the memory modules that show its features and how much memory they contain and that's how you can see it has 16GB, but your PC is showing only support for 1.91GB which is, pretty dodgy, old motherboard or driver or something buggy, or a rootkit on your kernel.
     
  6. sneakypeanut

    sneakypeanut Pika CHUUUUUU!!!

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    all i can say is i notice no difference with the 16gb ram i now have apart from now i can throw about 600 times more crap at it without it freaking out like it did befores :/ to be fair i think its more my motherboard than the ram, golden rule never buy asus motherboards.


    My specs : http://valid.canardpc.com/show_oc.php?id=1979690
     
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  7. Bad_Ad84

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    Thats whats supposed to happen.
     
  8. sanni

    sanni Intrepid Member

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    It was the fault of the integrated Intel HD 3000 gpu. It was setup in the bios to take the maximum amount of vram. So I set it to 256MB, the lowest setting, and it displays 2,99GB Ram now.
    So 2,99GB + 640MB of my Geforce + 256MB integrated Intel Gpu = ~4GB

    I should send an email to Asrock asking them if I can disable the integrated GPU all together on their Z68 Pro mainboard.
     
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  9. Cyantist

    Cyantist Site Supporter 2012,2013,2014,2015

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    when did you put the build together? before sandy bridge was avilable/stable? really shouldve gone for the P67 boards. Come with onboard gfx (which can be disabled) easy to OC and more
     
  10. sneakypeanut

    sneakypeanut Pika CHUUUUUU!!!

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    more importantly why are u still using xp... i know its good but 7 has a epic face :D
     
  11. LeGIt

    LeGIt I'm a cunt or so I'm told :P

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    He said in access, as in 0.01ms - not in bandwidth.

    As others have said though anything over 8Gb is kinda pointless. Now my RAM has come down I'm tempted by another 8Gb for a RAM disk, but the problem is I don't even play any games that will fit into the extra RAm as file sizes have ballooned in recent years - plus I'd have to pay like $80 or whatever it is for the licence to use the RAM disk software too.

    16Gb in the current climate and for most people's needs is 8Gb too much.

    As for saying those who go SSD don't go back, you missed a few steps - buy SSD, love it, it dies, RMA it, replacement dies, RMA it then wonder why you bothered with a 3rd gen SSD :p You are right in that even with the BS I've had with my OCZ Agility 3 I would go SSD again in the future though ;)
     
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  12. Bad_Ad84

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    And directly after that he is talking about swap files, which is bandwidth. As swap file is used for replacement of ram. writing and reading back from a slower device (SSD) isnt "just as fast" as staying in ram.

    I've had no problem with any of my SSD's. Had 4 to date, all still running perfectly.
     
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  13. Brandon.F

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    Been really tempted to buy a mac pro with 64GB RAM for a while now. Not sure if I'll ever do, I'll most likely do it once it gets cheaper.
     
  14. billcosbymon

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