Use a slimline CD drive for PSone?

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  1. bacteria

    bacteria I am the Bacman

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    The CD drives in the PSone console are a bit slow and noisy and thick; it would be nice if there was a way to connect one of those slimline laptop CD drives, so the drive pops out - slimmer drive, hopefully less clunky and also quieter! If I can so this, it will help make a future portable slimmer!

    Can this be done, if so, which drives will work (and what do they need to work) please?
     
  2. madhatter256

    madhatter256 Illustrious Member

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    I don't know of any out there, but I highly doubt you just plop one in and go. The laser assembly is old and out dated. One will have to be engineered from the ground up using higher quality parts.

    Of course, you're looking at something really expensive!

    Another method is probably to come up with a controller that converts a more standard PC CDROM laser data signal into one the PSX can understand and read, then you'll can use a laser made of better parts that will work on a PSX console, but again, this will ahve to be created from the ground up.
     
  3. Piratero

    Piratero Peppy Member

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    This is certainly interesting. I'd like to see such a thing.
     
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    Replacing the PS1 CD unit with another would not be completly impossible, but would be extremly difficult. I believe that an FPGA could be used to create a piece of hardware that, when connected to the mainboard, converts the signals to and from the format the Playstation expects. In all honesty, It's most likely not worth the time and money needed to implement it successfully.

    Although I would love to see this done, it would make a good mod to my old system.
     
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  5. bacteria

    bacteria I am the Bacman

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    There is another method, which I will experiment with at a later date (in next months when re-visiting this project again), of using the existing laser and carriage motors from a PSone drive and mixing it with a pop-out drive - a hybrid.
     
  6. phate

    phate Enthusiastic Member

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    I'd rather take that FPGA and instead of having it convert from one cd laser to another, I'd have it convert it to hard drive filled with ISOs.
     
  7. skavenger216

    skavenger216 Familiar Face

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    Only legally copied backups, right?????:thumbsup:
     
  8. karsten

    karsten Member of The Cult Of Kefka

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    there was a lot of talks about such projects related to the neogeo CD and people trying to use a 16x drive... i think it ended in nothing
     
  9. madhatter256

    madhatter256 Illustrious Member

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    Actual computer engineers are need for this job and some hightech equipment, as well as detailed technical documents of Sony PSX laser system.

    **edit**

    And money...
     
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  10. phate

    phate Enthusiastic Member

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    Can't be all that hard, while not the same, someone figured out how to take the Gamecube's DVD drive and replace it with a FPGA and an SD card.
     
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    karsten Member of The Cult Of Kefka

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    i wouldn't mind something like this for saturn or neogeo CD :)

    any link?
     
  12. AntiPasta

    AntiPasta Fiery Member

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    This exists for Saturn, I've seen the schematics. For the PSone, you are in a world of shit - the drive connector carries only analog signals, which are way harder to tap into. The early PSX motherboards offer more possibilities, as the CD part is split over 4 chips - but then, you still need to do a lot of soldering.
     
  13. madhatter256

    madhatter256 Illustrious Member

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    But aren't the PSOne and PSX lasers one and the same?
     
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    AntiPasta Fiery Member

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    The lasers are, yeah, but the circuitry on the motherboard got moved around a lot. I think it went from SPU->ASIC->ASIC->AKM chip->connector in the SCPH-100x to CPU+SPU->connector in the PSone. The first version is definitely more hackable, in fact, at one point I had all the relevant pinouts.
     
  15. bacteria

    bacteria I am the Bacman

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    There was someone who managed to salvage a CD with a pop-out tray and get it working on a PSone by making a hybrid, unfortunately they didn't document it. He kept the same laser and mechanism and managed to mix them into the other drive; so the concept can work, however, might be difficult (worth trying though).
     
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    undamned Spirited Member

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    Got a link?
    -ud
     
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    AntiPasta Fiery Member

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    Wow, someone put some time into that! Thanks, AntiPasta :icon_bigg
    -ud
     
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