Hey guys not sure if this is the right forum to put this in but been all good so far with help and sugestions So here goes, need some help with regards to VB.Net programing in regards to rotating images in picturebox and how would be best to scroll a map of 6000 * 6000 either move the map and keep car still or the way i think it should be done is move car and keep the car in the focus in the middle of the screen ? cheers