Wen hat den Krieg gewonnen?

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  1. Bert Hardy

    Bert Hardy Gutsy Member

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    Is America re-writing the war through war video games?

    Playing Medal of Honour/Honor, Call of Duty etc I get the impression the US won the war alone apart from one Scotsman (with a bad accent) and one "Tally ho boys" English Sargeant......

    Could children be taking history from these games and in the future will they spout this as what happened?

    p.s. my german sucks, apologies - would be obliged if someone could correct me
     
  2. s1xty

    s1xty Peppy Member

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    Wer hat den Krieg gewonnen ;-)
     
  3. madhatter256

    madhatter256 Illustrious Member

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    The original Call of Duty featured scenarios of all the allies, the Russians, Americans, and British. It wasn't pro-American, as you make it out to be.

    Battlefield 1942 (plus its wonderful mods) also featured a balanced gameplay between all sides, in most cases the German side was the superior, with a tougher tank, better planes.

    Children who take these games seriously in a historical sense are probably not the brightest of the bunch in the first place.

    Although some of these games do put in some actual events during the war as part of the gameplay and any cutscenes. None are anywhere near an academic level and in most cases, due to their age rating, usually say things most students have already learned in school.
     
  4. Christer-swe

    Christer-swe Fiery Member

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    However BF1942 was Swedish. We were neutral, remember? ;-)
     
  5. XxHennersXx

    XxHennersXx I post here on the toilet sometimes.

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  6. RyanGamerGoneGrazy

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    I haven't seen any war of 1812 games yet...hmmm.....:110:
     
  7. XxHennersXx

    XxHennersXx I post here on the toilet sometimes.

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    Can you imagine how many random headshots would be had if you had those guns accurate to real life? Bullet's would never land where you wanted!
     
  8. WolverineDK

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    "neutral" is perhaps a more fitting word, since you gave the Germans permission to go freely into Norway. So "neutral" is more fitting, and not that I am saying Denmark was neutral, since we were not neutral at all. And there is probably a very good reason why the Danish WW2 archives are still closed thanks to a clause. Because if it got opened now, then the Danes could spot the real traitors of WW2 Denmark.
     
  9. Johnny Vodka

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    Call of Duty 3 had campaign levels where you played as Canadian soldiers or polish tank units. Historical accuracy isn't as entertaining as just killing evil nazis. That's why you saw EA throw in fake nazi super soldiers at the end of Medal of Honor Airborne, also a once historically focused franchise. There's also a game coming out by Codemasters called Turning Point: Fall of Liberty, where the evil nazis actually invade America.

    No one is rewriting history. It's just because EA and Activision want to make their WWII games yearly franchises, so they run out of material US gamers would care about. Because so, they are turning to more fantasy story lines, as the market is over saturated with WWII games.
     
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  10. XxHennersXx

    XxHennersXx I post here on the toilet sometimes.

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    Understatement
     
  11. Christer-swe

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    Considering how Sweden was back then, the alternative would be to fully support Germany, atleast pre-43.
     
  12. WolverineDK

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    Exactly.
     
  13. madhatter256

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    There is this game developed by a Syrian developer, state-funded, where you play as a Palestinian teenager killing nothing but IDF soldiers. It takes place during a key event that sparked a lot of suicide bombings. Of course you won't see that game released here.

    This is a PC game, btw, and has some decent graphics.

    If anyone knows what I'm talking about and has access to it, please PM me about it!
     
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  14. graciano1337

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    Brothers In Arms is a very very historically accurate WWII shooter. Every location and every detail is exactly how it happened. They had some documentaries showing the real life locations, showing all the walls, buildings where MG42s were and so on. It's also a great game!
     
  15. Christer-swe

    Christer-swe Fiery Member

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    Well you would still prefer "neutral" to downright hostile, right?:rambo:

    Actually, I heard that the shortest war in history was between Germany and Denmark 1940, it took one hour. ;-) The Danes surrendered automatically, to make sure Danes in general wouldn't be mistreated. So you could say Denmark was as "neutral" as Sweden.

    But it would've been alot tougher for Denmark to defend itself than Sweden or Norway, considering you don't have the advantage of terrain like we do.
     
  16. 3T Pete

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    The Panzer Front series of tank sims let you play as Germans, Russians, Italians, British & Australian - each side had its missions, so you would have to play as all sides to finish the game. As well-rounded an experience as you'll get in videogames.
     
  17. WolverineDK

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    Denmark was occupied by the Germans. So we weren´t neutral at all, but since the politicians chose to cooperate with them. Then go figure, but anyway we were occupied just like a toilet full of shit. But you can´t be neutral, when you let some "foreigners" invade a neighbouring country. So it is no wonder why there are still hatred between Norwegians and Swedes or "hatred" since the hatred is more in jokes now adays. Than real hatred.
    But that is why, I do step very lightly in these matters about Scandinavia, and if it hadn´t been for the freedom fighters in Denmark, then we would probably not have been allowed into the UN and NATO (and also that the Danes begged USA to let us in the warmth) , since Churchill called the Danes (the politicians) Hitlers little Canary bird. And some other stuff. And yes we are going quite off topic in the general gaming area.
     
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  18. GaijinPunch

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    Yes, there is more than zero of them.
     
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