What directory would game data be in on ps2 tool?

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  1. ASSEMbler

    ASSEMbler Administrator Staff Member

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    I just installed linux to check a box of hdd I have.

    Up popped four drives, two small, two large.

    I have no idea where to look.

    I also have to figure out how to do data recovery in linux to
    get the deleted data back.

    I'm a dedicated windows person, so this is like reading chinese to me...
     
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  2. unclejun

    unclejun Site Supporter 2011-2014

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    There wouldn't be any...the Tool is not supposed to be used that way.
    Are those hdds from the dozen Tools you wrote about a few days ago?
     
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    they are extras I bought pulls from junked units. Two hdd sets.

    Pops up 4 partitions per drive, two small (os) two large.

    First large one has all kinds of folders, some dev, some game.
     
  4. unclejun

    unclejun Site Supporter 2011-2014

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    Like /dev and /usr/local/game or something?

    The only way you'll get any game data on a Tool would be on the emulation hdd, and I don't think you could access it anyway other than with the windows client, but I could be wrong.
     
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    I didn't check all the folders, my linux sucks, so I was asking what the default tree for the data would be in.
     
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    Is there a way to backup the dev drive on the tool over the lan?
     
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    unclejun Site Supporter 2011-2014

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    The Tool shouldn't have any game data on its hdds, the development process is not done on the Tool, only the debugging/testing, the game data is loaded from the network, a burned disc or the cd/dvd emulation hdd.

    That is how the Tool must be used according to Sony docs, and I did read more than once in the newsgroup archive that licensed developers would have liked to load data from the Tool's hdd, but that wasn't allowed by Sony.

    So if you're lucky you'll find a disc in the Tool's drive, or you have a Tool with the emulation board installed, and then you have even more luck on your side :)
     
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    unclejun what would the board look like?

    Typically the drives read like this:
    One blank, no partition
    One with linux files
    partition 230mb
    partition 130mb
    partition 1gb
    partition 1gb

    I was wondering if a data recovery program was run, could it recover data off emulation drive?

    I imagine the files I am seeing from the first drive are the linux files for the single board computer inside the unit.
     
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  9. unclejun

    unclejun Site Supporter 2011-2014

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    Yes, although doing that from the Tool itself is really slow.
    It would be easier to dump the hdd if it's already plugged in your new linux box...
     
  10. unclejun

    unclejun Site Supporter 2011-2014

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    One part of the emulation board is a PCI card:
    [​IMG]

    The blank drive, what was it connected to in the Tool?

    Honestly I don't know, SNsys used aproprietary file system for the emulation hdd, that's what they said atleast...

    Look on the hdd with the linux files, in the directory /usr/local, do you see a directory called "snsystems" or something similar?
     
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    I have to take a look.

    So unclejun in your opinion would it be foolish to buy 20 ps2 tools?
    I doubt that they all work and demand seems low. What do you think a
    ps2 tool is worth these days?
     
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    unclejun Site Supporter 2011-2014

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    Foolish, maybe a bit (are you trying to do another carpet picture?) but you don't know what you might find in them!
    Besides, you don't need to keep all of them...
    As for the demand, I'm sure if some were for sale, they would get sold, look at Yahoo, all the Tools got sold there, they are very rarely relisted...

    There is not a fixed price for the Tools I think, I got 2 for 10000 yens each, they were listed as junk, and both came with the emulation board and hdd.
    I was the only bidder on those, at the same time there were 2 or 3 other units for sale on YAJ, they were sold for more and they didn't have the emu board...

    The last one I sold went for 400€, it was working but not in very good condition, without the box or anything.

    If only one of the 20 is a dtl-T15k, you're extremely lucky!
     
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    I wouldn't hold onto them, just check them over and then sell them.

    How much was the shipping on your two junk units? A lot I imagine!!!
    If you get on msn later I will tell you exactly how much they are offered for.
     
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    Sorry for jumping in out of nowhere...

    You can check if you have the T14k installed by looking at the device list displayed by the TOOL BIOS on startup:

    [​IMG]
    The emulator is reported as a "Mass Storage Controller" having a PCI Vendor ID of 14D3, and a product ID of something between 0002 and 0004.

    Here are some more photos:
    [​IMG][​IMG]

    The emulator consists of two boards: the PCI card itself (used by the Linux side to control it), and a small daughter board responsible for the actual emulation. The daughter board sits between the PS2 mainboard and the mechacon PCB (the board containing the PS2-side battery and the connector for the optical drive), and also connects to the emulation HDD.
     
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    They were working fine (one of them had a broken PCI connector and 2 dead hdds in it but it works) but listed as junks, the shipping was more expensive than the Tools...
     
  16. unclejun

    unclejun Site Supporter 2011-2014

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    The pictures are yours, right?
    I have a grudge against the emu hdd, the thing is too small...
    The only free space I have on mine is enough for a CD image...
    The rest is filled with Pony Canyon "titles" (I can't call them games, there is hardly any gameplay involved!)
     
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    Yes, indeed :nod:. They were taken almost immediately after I got the TOOL (http://www.assemblergames.com/forums/showpost.php?p=312355&postcount=964), while trying to get it to recognize the emulator at all. Turns out the PCI interface is responsible just for reporting the device during bus enumeration, whereas the Linux driver uses some sort of pass-through mechanism to talk directly to the card's DSP. If the DSP doesn't answer, the driver won't load, even if the device itself is recognized during POST...

    :banghead: Too bad the good consoles do not only attract the good games...

    Did you ever try to connect a larger HDD? Even if the emulator does only support 24 bit LBA, it should be able to address up to 138GB; that is, if their partitioning system can handle such a size.

    What I dislike about the emulator is that the software does not support uploading raw disk images (like an ISO, or BIN/CUE for multiple tracks). You always have to create a file system, which conflicts with some games using their own on-disk structure.
     
  18. Mugi

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    oh man, 20 tools....
    where do you get money for this stuff, that's just madness :p

    well, if you do get ahold of those, make sure to give me a shout.
    im in a need of additional parts for mine :p
     
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