What If?

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  1. camdman

    camdman Robust Member

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    Hi,

    Been looking at these forums for a while and thought I would finally become a member.

    I have been thinking what would the world be if doomed consoles of the 90's etc were actually hits or had more support than they did back then.


    For example if the Sega 32x was more supported than the Mega Drive / Genesis and decent games came out on it.

    Games like Ultimate / Mortal Kombat 3 would of been the best ports (no loading etc), Sonic 3, Knuckles and 3D may of been different beasts to what they were etc

    Because a lot of good quality games were released late in the Mega drives / Genesis's lifespan and the 32x wasn't the most pushed console both in developer and retailers perspectives.

    What if the Virtual Boy did include a colour screen instead of the red and black display would it be any better (wouldnt be any cheaper:lol:)? Would of Nintendo made the GBC if that were the case?

    And finally would the N64 DD gotten better support and of course longer lifespan if it was released outside of Japan? Would they of bothered with the Gamecube?

    Just interesting to wonder If they did this or done that what actual consoles would be out there now?

    What are your thoughts?
     
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  2. la-li-lu-le-lo

    la-li-lu-le-lo ラリルレロ

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    I think it's really impossible to say. If things were that radically different, I imagine the entire videogame market would be radically different. Maybe Nintendo would release separate box that connected to the back of the Wii to improve its graphics, rather than releasing the Wii U. I don't know. These kinds of hypothetical questions have no meaningful answers.
     
  3. fasman

    fasman Enthusiastic Member

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    I dont really like what if scenarios but if you really want to mention something small that would have had a big impact on today's gaming:

    What if the Nintendo & Sonys' deal went ahead as planned to produce the original Super Disc (CD add-on for Snes), and it was successful?

    Think about what that means Sony never produces the Playstation, so the gaming world would still be dominated by Nintendo and Sega ....:cur_sonic:
     
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  4. Bramsworth

    Bramsworth Well Known Member

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    There's like no way to possibly know. Even just making up guesses, there's just an infinite amount and nothing really interesting about it since anyone can pull anything out of their ass.

    I never understand why people make topics like these, I know it's usually so you can get a conversation going for fun, but this is up there in the pointless category along with "who's your favorite character?" polls.
     
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  5. madhatter256

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    Now this is pure speculation but....

    The xbox would have weighed a lot less and subsequently the xbox360 would not overheat when playing call of duty games.

    Also, Al Gore would have been president and would have found and killed Osama shortly after 9/11. Gas prices would be low and Arab Spring wouldn't be as violent as it is now..

    But I think Nintendo would have been bought out by Microsoft and ended up like Sega....
     
  6. GodofHardcore

    GodofHardcore Paragon of the Forum *

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    Ok

    WHAT IF Nintendo went the way of Sega in 2001 instead of Sega
     
  7. Cyantist

    Cyantist Site Supporter 2012,2013,2014,2015

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    I'm hardly built like a brick shit house but I've never thought the Xbox nor it's controller were all that big/heavy
     
  8. GodofHardcore

    GodofHardcore Paragon of the Forum *

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    The XBOX Duke is my standard Mega Drive/Saturn Pad when doing Retrocade
     
  9. Cyantist

    Cyantist Site Supporter 2012,2013,2014,2015

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    When I was a kid I hated the duke because I struggled to press some of the high buttons. Nowadays it's the best controller in existance. So comfortable.
     
  10. 7Force

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    The original Xbox is probably the ugliest console ever made.
     
  11. MottZilla

    MottZilla Champion of the Forum

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    Maybe MK3/UMK3 could have been great on the 32X. However Sonic 3 was never going to be on 32X. The game was planned for the Genesis and was surely in development before the 32X was really coming along, plus Japan never was that interested in supporting the 32X.

    The 32X was a neat concept but it never was going to work in reality given it's high cost. Now if somehow you could have released the 32X in 1994 for 50$ (without taking a loss on it) you could have probably made quite a nice run with it. But the high cost doomed it since no one would pay that kind of money when the Saturn was coming. Another issue was memory, particularly the cartridges. Mortal Kombat 2 on 32X barely fit the 4 megabyte cartridge but did thanks to compression. Mortal Kombat 3 may have had more trouble, and UMK3 maybe even more. Larger ROM capacity would have been possible but expensive. Expensive carts + expensive console is not good.

    The 32X is kind of an oddity because on the one hand you can do software 3D with it, but I'm not sure how well it does that and it certainly doesn't compare to the Saturn and PS1. The 2D enhancement is nice as you have more colors and can draw as much as you can get the CPU to render but that is a limit. If you just wanted to enhance the MD not have 3D, you could have done it better. I don't know, it really is an oddity and a neat point in gaming history. It certainly never realized its full potential. It was supposed to have some additional audio which I'm not sure any games took advantage of, they definitely could have used it for improved music.
     
  12. madhatter256

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    I think the 32x was a lot harder to code on than on the Saturn. That would increase budgets, etc.
     
  13. GodofHardcore

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    and the saturn was a Rubicks cube to program for... so the 32x then is a Rubicks Dodecahedron?
     
  14. MottZilla

    MottZilla Champion of the Forum

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    I don't know what you are basing this on. Generally it's just conjecture from unknown sources. Also I'm not sure what your point is about it being "harder". Look at games like Star Wars Arcade 32X or Virtua Racing. They work quite well. Plenty of Saturn games also work fantastic.

    While they are certainly complex machines which may cause development issues, that alone doesn't mean anything. If they can't get support from the hardware manufacturer it is an issue for sure. But these are/were professionals. They would figure it out. If anything it would just take time and experience to master it. But ofcourse the 32X didn't have time and the Saturn in the US apparently didn't get much time either.

    Again those cost I think was the #1 reason.
     
  15. Jamtex

    Jamtex Adult Orientated Mahjong Connoisseur

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    David Braben was annoyed that Sega killed the Neptune as he developed Darxide for that rather then the 32X (if that makes sense). Sega really shot themselves in the foot by killed off the Genesis and Megadrive when the machines were still doing very well in Europe and America. They should have killed the Megadrive / Genesis replaced it with the Neptune and done more 32X and Megadrive games until at least late 96, they let Nintendo recover in America stealing a lot of 16 bit sales from them and they released the Sega Saturn before it should have been, a year or twocould have streamlined the machine, made it more powerful, got the piss poor linbraries better and have had a better selection of launch games. It could have been a better player then it was.
     
  16. 7Force

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    The 32X was practically all Sega of America, SOJ was against it from the beginning. It can do some pretty decent 3D stuff though: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F96yVYxNWPI
     
  17. camdman

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    The 32x was a shoulda, coulda, didn't machine.

    Really the first post that I wrote was meant to reflect that if the consoles mentioned had more support and all those unrelased and must have games finally made it to console do you think would that of changed anything?

    Most people bought a playstation to play Final Fantasy 7, Gran Turismo etc, if these were on the N64 they most likely would of got a N64.

    I'm sorry to have caused a "this is a stupid topic" but it is one I think of a lot and wanted others opinions.

    Don't know why I'm just a if you step on a bug in the past will that change the future type of guy :lol: .
     
  18. APE

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    Have you not seen an Odyssey 2?
     
  19. GodofHardcore

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    Or the pippin Or the Supergraphix or the Turbographix 16 (too plain)
     
  20. graciano1337

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    I disagree. It's a sexy beast if I do so say so myself. :)
     
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