what mod chip for PS2?

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  1. wilykat

    wilykat Site Supporter 2013

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    NTSC, model 30000, no 'R' so guessing a rev 4 board. I'd like to play PS2 backup. PSX support is optional as I got PSOne that works fine (soon to be modded), a spare PSX that is modded, and a few spare PSOne.

    What chip is ideal for this? Also why is PS2 so complicated to mod? PSX/One can be done with 4-6 wires and I've seen XBox mod with a few wires as well. Wii (ands some Gamecube) doesn't need any wire, you just plug into existing drive connector. But PS2 seems to require 10,000 wires to work.

    TIA
     
  2. bart_simpson

    bart_simpson Dauntless Member

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    I would say duo 3 ultra gold as they will work with japan consoles as for mobo 760 is very much the same but unsure.

    If will work with a japan v4 console i did try and mod a japan scph-30000 before and it blew the ba chip.

    I Still have the box for it but i will get other console again in the near future and mod it to see.
     
  3. Zer0-2k11

    Zer0-2k11 Site Supporter 2012,2013,2014,2015

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    Modbo 4.0 works just fine (Tested = V4,V5,V7,V9) havent tested slim models yet as the fat models seem to be more common around here.
    As for the Modbo 750 "This chip has trouble working under V9 PS2's*
    I heard mars pro works good too but you can't save settings (Can be a bad thing depending)
    As for matrix infinity 1.93 im not sure i think jinn (Very experianced modder) said it's the best for v9 and under
     
  4. Conker2012

    Conker2012 Intrepid Member

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    I don't know anything about PS2 mod chips, but my PS2 is sort of modded, in that it can run any game from the hard drive. I don't know if this includes 'backups' as I've only put my original game discs onto the hard drive, but I imagine backups would work. Using the software also lets you run programs (homebrew utilities) from the hard drive and a USB stick.

    Being able to run the PS2 games from a hard drive is great, as it not only speedd up loading immensely and also prevents all loading errors, but also saving wear and tear on the PS2's DVD drive, as once you've installed your game(s) to the hard drive then you never need to use the game disc(s) again, so you can put them away somewhere safe.

    This is what I do, and it's *fantastic*. I don't even use a disc in my PS2's DVD drive any more; when I turn on my PS2 it boots up almost instantly, from the memory card in slot 2, then comes up with a menu on screen allowing me to load any game from hard drive, and whilst I'm playing any game, I can press a certain combination of joypad buttons to reset the PS2 (at any time) and go back to the menu to load a new game. It really is fantastic.

    The only limitations are:


    - you can't play PS1 games like this, PS1 games must be played from the original discs,

    - not all games work from hard drive, but every game I've tried does, and the compatibility is being increased all the time as work progresses on the loading software,

    - you can't always save game-saves to the hard drive, you still need to save to the memory cards, but this is the same even if you run the game from the disc, so either way you're stuck with it. Some games do support virtual memory cards (they save/load to the hard drive thinking they're using the memory card), but I've never tried to use this, as I don't have enough PS2 games to make me test this feature (actually, it's free time I've short of, rather than games :grief:).

    You can also load games from a USB stick, these are very common and cheap nowadays, but since the PS2 only supports USB standard 1.1, then it's very slow, around the speed of loading from a real PS2 disc. For a real speed increase, you need to use a hard drive which only fat PS2's support. Slim PS2's can only load via the USB port, both USB stick and (so I've heard) USB hard drives, but the speed will only be a fraction of a fat PS2 with an IDE hard drive.



    To play games from a hard drive, you need:

    + a fat PS2 (does not need to be modded),

    + a network adapter,

    + an IDE hard drive, most will do, I currently have a 250GB in mine, though only 220GB is seen by the PS2. I think the software can be made to see larger than 220GB on larger drives, but I've not yet looked into it, as 220GB is more than enough for my current games collection. IDE drives are very cheap, though getting harder to find, as SATA drives are becoming more common, and you can't use a SATA drive in the PS2 (as far as I know, perhaps a converter would work?),

    + the software (see below),

    + a USB stick (for transfering the software to the PS2, afterwards you don't need the USB stick, so you can just borrow one if you like),

    + a memory card (game save card) if you wish to boot from a memory card - it uses up just less than half the space on the memory card, and you can use the rest of the memory card (and any card in the other card slot) to save game saves as usual. Otherwise you can boot from DVD as usual, but then you'll need a commercial boot disc, like HDLoader.




    To play games from a USB stick, you need:

    + a PS2, either a fat or a slim, either will work as far as I know,

    + a USB stick (for transfering the software to the PS2, and then the same or a different USB stick(s) for loading the games from),

    + a memory card to boot from.


    The software you need is all free and legal, but I won't post links here, in case that's against the board rules. Just use to google.com and search for:

    free mcboot

    and

    open ps2 loader

    Currently the first link Google puts up is the right link for these, and currently Free McBoot is version 1.8, and Open PS2 Loader is version 0.7

    Aside from the hard drive and the network card (I bought the latter from ebay) you'll only need to buy a USB stick, although you can probably borrow a USB stick off someone as you only need it to install the software. The software is all free, unless you need a commercial boot disc like HD Loader, but I'd recommend booting from memory card instead, as it's quicker and saves wear and tear on the DVD drive.


    For a list of compatible hard drives, google:

    ps2 hard drive compatibility

    though I bought two off the shelf, without checking as I didn't know that some drives didn't work with it, and they both (a 120GB, and later this 250GB) worked fine.

    Anyway, before you do anything, read up on everything, and know what you're getting and what you'll have to do to install everything. It's a bit of trouble if you don't know what you're doing, but once done it's done for good, and believe me, a hard drive really transforms the whole PS2 experience, and I couldn't go back to loading from disc every time I wanted to play a game.

    Moderators - please note, everything in this post is legal, and I've not posted any links just to be on the safe side.
     
  5. Lum

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    A hard drive does not break the protection on PS2's optical drive. You still have to use workarounds to install imports or backups.
     
  6. Conker2012

    Conker2012 Intrepid Member

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    Oh right. Sorry, I didn't know that. Either way though, it's still brilliant being able to run your PS2 games from the hard drive, even if it is limited to your own region and you have to install from the original game discs.
     
  7. wilykat

    wilykat Site Supporter 2013

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    I've looked over the guide, seems like a lot of work to make PS2 run games off internal hard drive. Presently I don't have network adapter or any IDE hard drives, would SATA drive + SATA to IDE adapter work? If not, I'd have to find one. About $15-$20 for adapter plus oh about $25 for eBay used 200GB hard drive.

    I'll risk melting my PS2 with modchip. If that fails and I need to dial 911, I'll make the next PS2 hard drive modded instead of chipped :excitement:
     
  8. Zer0-2k11

    Zer0-2k11 Site Supporter 2012,2013,2014,2015

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    LOL, are you gonna be soldering with a cigarette lighter?.
     
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  9. bennydiamond

    bennydiamond Gutsy Member

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    Hahaha nice. But I must admit it took me a great deal of time and practice before I would dare mod my PSTwo. Now I can solder VQFP-100 ICs without any hassle.But looking back a few years I was sure I couldn't reach that level of expertise.

    IMO, of all the console possible to hardmod, the PS2 comes second just before the PSP. And I'm also counting the first modchips for Xbox which were 28 wires or so. Sure most of the points were tiny but I think it was slightly easier than PS2.
     
  10. wilykat

    wilykat Site Supporter 2013

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    LOL I managed to melt my Sears branded Intellivision some years ago. The shells and the power supply was toast, all I got saved were the mobo and 2 controllers.
     
  11. Zer0-2k11

    Zer0-2k11 Site Supporter 2012,2013,2014,2015

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    I was only joking around, i wasn't trying to make fun of the dude personally. I agree i have tons of experiance soldering and must say ps2 can be tricky here and there if your soldering to the QFP and can say its the most difficult.

    LOL!. I guess if you look at the bright side of it. you still got something out of it
     
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  12. bennydiamond

    bennydiamond Gutsy Member

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    If wilykat already have a working PSX then I wouldn't hesitate to go for a softmod solution like FreeMCBoot (or a Memor32 card but really:suspicion:...) + Open PS2 Loader.

    You can still play PS2 DVD (CD isos have to be converted to DVDs) provided they are patched. I can't remember what's the name of the patching process but it's fairly common nowadays since alot of users are using softmods.

    I do have a ModBo 760 in my v12 but I mainly use FreeMCBoot with Open PS2 Loader to stream my games from my NAS. Works good, some games are not working perfectly but for these I burn them to a physical disc.
     
  13. Banjo

    Banjo <B>Site Supporter 2014</B>

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    Thanks for all the info. Just did the softmod today based on your post after a bit of research. Much appreciated!
     
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