What's wrong with gaming video shows on the net? Tell me your opinions.

I'm trying to find out what people would like in a video game show. Do you want voice overs? Do you want quick 5 minute shows focusing on one title or longer shows that cover many titles? Do you want to see the presenter or keep them off-screen? Please let me know what you'd like to see.

Yakumo

 

I prefer to have voice-overs, but with the presenter off-camera as much as possible. Appearing on cameras for short bits like AVGN is fine, but Nostalgia Critic constantly being on screen to make a bad joke is not. Memes, screaming and forced catchphrases are bad, not that your shows have them but a ton of shitty gaming videos do.

 

don't watch em, unless they're a silent audio or a music track dub over.
can't stand to hear humans recorded in that fashion, regardless of nationality.
can't really formulate an objective opinion when i've passed judgement across the board.
one bad guy RUINS it for the rest.
i don't make the (unwritten, unsaid made-up bs internet) rules, i EXPLOIT them in order to survive, just like most here.
can agree, the ones yelling and detracting from objective get to me, that's when i bug-out, and get baked.
more to life.
take it or leave it, do nothing for me.
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now THIS is the kind of vid that i'm talking about, just a screencapture with tunes dubbed over it! (plus, it's a guide, NOT leisure. to the point, NO messing around.)
thanks for this SPPV. :wink-new:

 

Personally I prefer to see the presenter, so I like for them to be on screen. As for length, longer the better. I tend to watch shows about video games to learn stuff I couldn't just find out in two minutes using google, I'm talking in-depth esoteric information involving development or the business side of things. One thing I've seen a couple times that works well is having the presenter on screen during long talking sections, but with a picture-in-picture shot showing some relevant gameplay in the corner.

 

I think your shows generally strike a good balance between presenter being on-screen/off-screen, voiceovers and gameplay, I guess that's why I watch it religiously. You don't babble for hours unlike certain show where you lose the will to live before anything is shown. It's interesting.

I just can't spend more than 5 seconds watching any IGN-type videos for instance, there is always an endless stream of idiotic/obvious things being said and ego building, can't stand it. I'm not a big fan of unboxing videos either unless done as a time lapse

What I want to see is more of Japan Love your store videos, always!!! Or I need to invest in a plane ticket...

 

There was this show called Gamer that was shown in YTV that i really liked before it got canned. I think the format usually goes like they spend 5 mins talking about the latest things, then 5 mins doing game play of some game and 5 mins for gags and rando humor and sometimes interviews and the last 3 mins was spent on showing something really obscure.

 

Thanks for the comments so far guys. Keep them coming. I currently have Battle of the Ports, that's not going to change and twice a month I do Retro Core, a 25 to 35 odd minute show where I'm on screen for a total of 5 minutes or less. But I'm thinking about something else. Something that is a little different. This is why I'm interested in peoples opinions.

Keep them coming

 

A 8 to 10 minute format is perfect. You basically can click and enjoy the content without having to commit to a half hour. One show I really like is Game Sack but their shows are typical 30-40 minutes which means I have to save them for much later when I have time to sit and watch an episode. Another good show is Game Chasers which is always a strict 22 minutes which isn't bad.

I think gameplay with narration is fine but it really depends on the show your doing. I think the worst format is the guy who just stands and talks to the camera. Guys like AlphaOmegaSin do those kinds of videos and I almost never watch him for that reason. Give us something to look at even if its game covers. Gamester81 is a great example of how to do hosted segments, its too bad he uses his show now to just plug his products or his fellow youtubers. So there's another bit of advice, no plugging or shilling!

 

Spoken commentary often does annoy me in game videos, but you're an exception to that - your voice isn't annoying, and you always have interesting stuff to say. I actually think it would be cool if you did a voiceover for Battle of the Ports. I realize that would be a lot of work, but I know a lot of people would appreciate it.

 

I used to really love CGR, but lost interest in it a while ago because it's become so vapid and shallow. Once people started sending him boatloads of games he's never seen before, the "reviews" turned into five minutes of him making irrelevant jokes and barely describing the game. The show was a lot better when he dealt with games he had a lot of experience with. On the other hand, I do like his general positivity and love of Sega.

I can't watch Alphaomegasin anymore. You can only watch someone scream profanity and go on and on about something that should take two minutes to talk about so many times.

The main problem I have with most youtube game shows is that so many of them are from people who are by and large, Nintendo fanatics. They tend to push their bias towards everything they talk about, even non-Nintendo games/consoles. A lot of the hate and apathy towards everything old(er) that's not from Nintendo/Sony comes from the constant circle jerking around the NES and SNES you see all over the internet. It makes trying to talk to your average joe about Sega or Atari or 3DO or whatever painful. These are the kind of things I hear all the time from people I know in real life and online.

"The Sega CD/3DO? That just had a bunch of shitty movie-things."
"Atari systems were so bad that they killed gaming until Nintendo saved it"
"The Saturn was shitty at 3D."
"All of Sega's systems sucked, that's why they went 3rd party."

I prefer the kind of show that actually teaches me something, like Game Sack. In nearly every episode, I see at least one game I've never seen before. They were the reason I bought a 3DO and a lot of the games I now have.

 

I think the only one i follow really is Yakumo, to the point i like to watch Battle of the Ports and his other videos on my living room TV.

I'm thinking about creating a youtube channel, but have no plans for voice commentary or anything overproduced. I would only upload game videos and maybe some uncommom stuff like Gran Turismo Concept 2002 Tokyo Seoul. But for that i would need a capturecard and i don't want to spend money on something i might lose interest very fast.

By the way, why no create an AssemblerGames gaming "network", so all channels from members would be linked together?

 

@zetastrike I SO agree with everything right on the dot!! That's definitely the many reasons i kinda hate Nintendo & it's fans because they don't give a damn about other companies like NEC (which were def one of THE biggest electronic gaming company of the time right next with Nintendo back in the 80's & early-mid 90's!) they ALWAYS have a burning hate desire of Sega for no goddamn reason cuz they're jealous of their huge success of the time and the fact that's it's still going strong in China/Hong Kong, South Korea, Brazil/South America AND Russia! While those countries including Europe never gave two shits about the Super Nintendo. I swear to god they piss me the fuck off sometimes (excuss my language) but they seriously do man! And as for those that say the Saturn sales or system itself sucked, keep in mind that "sucky-shitty system" you N64 Fanboys call it was actually successful in Both Japan & South Korea (I believe).

 

^^ i just HATE you all without discrimination.
equality and that. [/sarc] :witless:
but seriously, it's a bit FLIMSY to hate nintendo based on the folks that are what they eat.
can't say i have a problem on that degree.
just don't like some aspects, like the wiimote...and the willful ignorance of the devs to account for pad users.
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lucky for me, age has bears the fruits of wisdom, i know nobody that's specifically into one platform (except me ) so i can dodge all that.
first world problems make me puke.
when a piece of tech boots your door down and stuffs the business end of a H&K mp5a5+ 9mm smg in your grill, then i'll join in.
until that day, business as usual. (the consoles listed above by zetastrike are SWEET, if only i could score em with slicing off one of my bollocks to pay for em) do have the saturn...
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typo. (i can't be f*cked with this POS keyboard)

 

I didn't mean it like that though i'd should've corrected myself as i actually meant the massive large fanboys on YouTube and some forums that takes Nintendo for granted like their shit don't stank lol and constantly craps on Sega for many of their past F'k ups! But never Nintendo's (cuz apparently they make the smart moves which i can sorta agree on the matter) as like i was saying, don't get me completely wrong as i LOVE the Super Famicom & it's Japanese exclusives plus some of the Taiwanese pirates kinda but seriously it's just only the asshole fans i dislike the most nowadays from time to time. And.. back on topic um, Yakumo i wouldn't mind seeing some completely new content upload things (just throwing a few ideas) how about some "never before seen" stuff like South Korea/Taiwanese Imported 16 bit games that were only exclusive to MS-DOS (something that no one hasn't really done ever before) or more of those obscure Mega Drive/Super Famicom pirated game videos (if there's anymore around that is)

 

fair enough. :smile-new:
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when i stumble across something like a game, this is another example of objectivity.
^^ it's a playthrough, i didn't hear ONE spoken word in all of it, maybe that's why i watched it all?! (this example does look like it was played on an emu, but i could be wrong? VR did have an occasional artifact, nothing detrimental though.)

 

I really dislike gaming videos that are nothing more than clips from the game or just a recording. If you're going to be doing a top 10 or review, I need you to TELL me why this thing is good! With your voice!

 

another type of video i can stomach are the ones where the screencapture is used and a text/annotation is used in place of what would be a voice.
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i do find it difficult to locate a completely unbiased review of anything, that should explain the VOICELESS playthroughs i sometimes watch.
i have my own brains, and can formulate my OWN opinions based on what is seen.
listing ALL positive and negative aspects of whatever game is also part of objectivity WHEN observed as a third-person, and NOT based on preference or love for it. (i could rant on about how amiga games stomp the competition for me, but that's the bias i refer to...and we all know that what's good for one will poison the rest, social dynamics for you. then again, we DON'T live in a democracy...)
i have no further ideas really.
you've got the recording quality down, just NOT got the world eating out of your hands...yet! :wink-new: (DESTROY the human presence in these 'reviews' and you've got a subscriber this end. still, the needs of one DON'T count, so...?!)

 

Just don't do what CGR does, and you'll be fine.

I watch gaming videos to be educated, about a game I haven't played before. Same goes for hardware so, solid information is best. Very similar to Mike's reviews on AVGN's channel.

 

I like the way RetroCore has always been done TBH.

I have always been dumbfounded as to why it isn't super popular? It's better in just about every way compared to most shows.

I just don't get it.

 

I agree! maybe is that people likes Youtubers who yells at the top of their lungs (Most well know & current popular Youtubers) or constantly swears a whole bunch in ever sentence (Alpha Omega Sin & DSPgaming) and refuses to listen to something informative or super obscure if given enough of their attention that is.