Why not to buy a PSP. (56k stay away) "Updated"

Discussion in 'Rare and Obscure Gaming' started by Evangelion-01, Dec 12, 2004.

  1. kstyle25

    kstyle25 Peppy Member

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    can't wait till the turbo express2 comes out an pwns you all :smt023
     
  2. einbebop44

    einbebop44 Guest

    Thank you, Gamespot for shutting everyone the FUCK up about the PSP's battery life. Thank you so much. I felt the need to use an expletive, because finally all this specualtion about the PSP's battery life can end.

    3 hours isn't much on a plane flight etc or a long school trip or some crap like that. Besides, who said that you'd be near an outlet the whole time anyhow? 3 hours is sad, 90 minutes is just plain awful.

    And please stop with this fanboy crap. No one is acting like a fanboy here. It's more than possible there are PSP units out there like the one above.

    Has anyone here actually played a PSP?
     
  3. cahaz

    cahaz Guardian of the Forum

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    im not taking a side because of the fanboyism, im taking a side because of the truth.


    touched.

    :smt033

    ;-)
     
  4. Hawanja

    Hawanja Ancient Deadly Ninja Baby

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    I don't know guys, we all have our Ps1 & 2 horror stories. I personally have had two Playstations go sour on me.

    Becasue of that, I will never be an early adapter of Sony game systems. I'll be perfectly fine waiting 6 months to a year, when the price will be cheaper, the system will be less likely to fall apart, and there will be more games to choose from.

    That said, at that time I will definelty get a Psp.
     
  5. Evangelion-01

    Evangelion-01 Officer at Arms

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    same here
     
  6. Evangelion-01

    Evangelion-01 Officer at Arms

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    i c... gotta read alittle bit more :p
     
  7. GaijinPunch

    GaijinPunch Lemon Party Organizer and Promoter

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    Dude -- handhelds are perfect for long ass plane rides. I remember playing my GBA for about 8 of a 13 hour flight when the dickhead ticket person stuck me on the INSIDE of the only other guy on the plane close to my size (6'3", 185 lbs). 3 Hours is absolutely crap, regardless of whether you will "usually" use it that long.

    My iPod is the same thing. It's not that I use it for 3 hours straight. But back in japan, I'd use it train to work->train to gym->gym->train home. It lasted, but if I didn't charge it every night, the battery died on the next day. And that, my friend, is a steaming pile of bullshit for a $400+ piece of hardware.
     
  8. id-republix

    id-republix Guest


    Mass was the wrong word, but there were many, as everyone knows, form the manufacturing facilities in China. So yes, it was a serious issue, and there were MANY DS units with dead pixels. So serious was the issue that Nintendo had to address it, which would NOT happen if it were an isolated issue.

    But Nintendo's initial response in this regard was completely indefensible :

    http://news.spong.com/detail/news.asp?prid=8021


    Spong put it quite well themselves when they commented on the above : "It might as well read, “So, we sold you suckers a slightly broken new games console and you have the cheek to complain? What is wrong with you? Well, if you are such a baby that your broken screen is making you cry we’ll do some kind of mysterious restoration work which sounds like we’ll take your DS away for ages.â€￾

    All this whining about SONY's arrogance. Nintendo has just as much if not MORE arrogance on its monopoly in the handheld market.


    At least the DS is out and people can judge it in their own hands. Bashing the PSP before it is out is pure bias.

    The PSP cannot be compared to the GG; GG was big, heavy, and not very portable at all. The PSP uses an optical drive, has moving parts as such, has a much larger display, and as such the battery life of 5-6 hours quoyed for a game would be reasonable considering what is going on inside the machine. A laptop isn't going to have a great dela more going on and typically has to have a huge ass battery that lasts typically 1-2 hours. Yes - as I have said elsewhere 5-6 hours sucks for a plane trip - hell, this news of such sort playtime on Ridge Racers sucks as anything - for example (not many people are going to play the entire length of an 8 hour flight but what of international trips with multiple stopovers and flights?) , but is this reason alone to completely bash the PSP? What, it still can't be enjoyed? Who on earth is goign to be on a perpetual plane trip/ campout/ in general away from a power source for so long, ALL the time? I just hope that the battery charges quickly. Furthermore, for all we know SONY or a third party could be releasing a more powerful battery pack in the future that could last much longer just as was done with the GBA SP.

    Give the PSP a chance. It cannot be denied there is strong Nintendo fanboyism behind many of the statements here, and despite the accusations above of my being a fanboy by defending the PSP (laughable)
    - the last thing I would EVER be after the bullshit PS2 hype machine that was touted as a DC-destroyer (my ass) would be to be a SONY fanboy.

    What I AM saying is that the PSP nowhere enar deserves the bullshit it is getting here, and regardless of your trying to pin it down to battery life, it's hardly just that. People are bashing the PSP just because it's SONY. And that is what's sad.
     
  9. ASSEMbler

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    That's why they have warranties.

    When psx first came out, I went through four of them in about a month as all the lasers were bad.
     
  10. Yakumo

    Yakumo Pillar of the Community *****

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    Dead pixles is no big deal really. My 17" Mitsubishi TFT has one crazy pixle that goes blue when the screen is black. My DS is perfect though but I also got one for Importaku and his has one dead pixle on the touch screen. I do belive that the PSP does have a shite battery life as do Sony. Why else release a replacable battery straight away. Nintendo didn't with their DS. I've managed to get 10 hours out of my DS on a single charge. Not too sure how long it's possible to get it to run for though.

    Anyway, we'll just have to wait and see how many DS & PSP have faults before we can start slagging build quality.

    Yakumo
     
  11. ASSEMbler

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    Even sony laptops are known for their crap batteries. Wait for a 3rd party battery with a 20 hour life. :smt023
     
  12. id-republix

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    Yeah. I'm sure it will happen. The PSP has SONY backing it; it's no small product and third parties will be rushing to alleviate whatever issues gamers have with it just as they have with eveyr single other console, niche or mainstream, for years.
     
  13. asnozz

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    didnt they release longer lasting batteries for the SP...... or was that my failing memory? :smt042
     
  14. adam-james

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    Well, mine is on its way from lik-sang towers... can't wait!

    :eek:)
     
  15. asnozz

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    im curious, no offense,

    how much did you pay?
     
  16. Zilog Jones

    Zilog Jones Familiar Face

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    Yeah, didn't someone make an add-on for AA cells or something, or am I imagining things again? Though that probably won't be possible with the PSP as I doubt it runs on 1.5 or 3V, and 3 or 4 AA's would make things pretty big.

    My opinion on those pictures:

    The dead pixels could very well be true. It's very common for quality control policies of LCD manufacturers to pass TFT screens with one or two dead pixels (though probably only one with these smaller screens). I must have used about 100 PCs with LCD monitors in college alltogether over the past year and a half, and have only encountered ONE 17" with a noticeable dead pixel - and I notice these things! It's really not that common.

    All the other pictures are pure speculation, though - God knows what way they could have been damaged. It could have come out the factory like that, but it could have just as easily been damaged in transport, in a warehouse, by the retailers, or (very likely) by the owners. SPECULATION!

    About the batteries, though - until we see more tests and reviews I'm going to call that 90 minutes thing speculation too. It could have just been a particularly bad battery they were using, or was improperly charged. Though I'm not going to expect any exponentially better results than around 3-5 hours.

    I really think having an optical disc drive in a portable games device is a bad idea, battery wise. I know Sony have been making MD Walkmans for the past 12 years or so, so they know how to make them, but with MiniDiscs you're reading pretty much continuously through the disc and at a pretty slow data rate. With the PSP it'll be reading a lot faster, and the laser will have to be seeking all over the place - and seeking eats the battery! With my MP3 CD Walkman, I get about 60-80 hours battery life when just playing straight through a 700MB disc. Now if I put it on shuffle (which will require the laser having to make more drastic movements between songs), the battery life is halved!

    So thinking about this, good optimisation of how the data is arranged on the UMDs could help a lot with battery life, too, and I'm sure early games will not be well optimised.
     
  17. This just in! Apparently the malicious hacker behind the dead pixel
    conspiracy is none other than Nintendo, trying to sabotage the PSP to
    ensure its continued handheld dominance! See how they have left a
    mocking image made of dead and dying pixels on the screen of one
    sad PSP owner!

    [​IMG]

    That being said, I'd like to remind everyone that all devices using LCD technology are indeed subject to dead pixels - it's just a defect associated with the technology, so of course occasional PSP units will have dead pixels.
    Or Nintendo DS.
    Or GBA/GBA SP.
    Or Palm/PocketPC devices.
    Or iPods.
    Or the Apple Cinema Display.
    Or flatscreen monitors in general.
    Or graphing calculators.

    Get the drift? It's a problem with the technology. I have my own reservations about the PSP, but it seems to me that simply because it's Sony, there are enough people out there looking to find things wrong with the machine, and if it doesn't arrive made of solid gold, capable of creating beer out of thin air and wiping your ass at the same time, there will be people bitching about something.
    Just my two cents.
    I'm still sticking with my DS, tho.
     
  18. Importaku

    Importaku Import Maniac

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    WHAT!! you mean it now dosen't. Grr bloody sony they always change the spec in the finished product. :smt043
     
  19. Funkstar De Luxe

    Funkstar De Luxe Fiery Member

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    It's not $400+, it's $185 that SONY charge. That's almost giving it way, £90.

    I don't think these things are designed for people who spend their entire day traveling without talking to a soul or having the good fortune to find a power outlet.

    You are running a TFT screen, stereo speakers, a laser and an electric motor. And that's just the mechanics, not the internal workings. 3 hours is fucking good to have all that churning away. You think Sony said "we can make it last 5 days. But let's fuck'em and take it down to three hours" Big companies like Sony don't just thow things together, they are limited by what technology can do right now.
     
  20. Importaku

    Importaku Import Maniac

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    Try reading it again, Gaijunpunch was on about the $400+ ipod not the psp.
     
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