Wii bootloader?

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  1. Barc0de

    Barc0de Mythical Member from Time Immemorial

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    http://www.maxconsole.net/?mode=news&newsid=12715

    I haven't looked into this personally, but I ll let you be the judge. :shrug: Stop-n-Swap (to stop the camera and resume recording, having swapped the DVD-R with an original) is a very (extremely) real possibility, considering most of these videos are usually fake.

    PS: he might also have easily just changed AV channels via a remote:p

    Sad how some people want to act cool by posting fakes o_O
     
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  2. subbie

    subbie Guardian of the Forum

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    the AV is always set to AV1, it states so in the upper left.

    The point in quesiton where people say he stop and swapped was just the camera readjusting to the light source going dark (common on digital camera & cell phone cameras).

    I wait till the 1st to see if it's real or fake. IF fake, it's a better fake then 90% of the fakes made.
     
  3. Yakumo

    Yakumo Pillar of the Community *****

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    I read that you can use the GameCube loaders to run home brew and emulation orginaly made for the Game Cube on the Wii. Does anyone know if this is true?

    Yakumo
     
  4. sayin999

    sayin999 Officer at Arms

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    It is and its well documented on wikipedia. Baisicly it requires using the sd memory card for game cube and loading a hack from it using an action replay code.

    I don't know if they do carry action replays in your region yakumo, but I know they do carry the offical sd card reader for cube. If action replay is carried in your region and you got a 2+gb sd card its worth it.
     
  5. Sintendo

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    They have Action Replays in Japan, but I don't know if the code encryption is the same. Also, older AR versions don't work on the Wii, so I don't know if the Japanese AR will work at all.
     
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    Yakumo Pillar of the Community *****

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    bummer :( Yeah our Action Replays are under the Karat name but if you look closely you can see the Datel copyrights :lol: So they are the same thing. I have had a few codes that won't work on the Japanese Saturn Action Replay although most of them do seem to be the same. Knowing my luck though the code for the GC loader will be different.

    Yakumo
     
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  7. Barc0de

    Barc0de Mythical Member from Time Immemorial

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    Which version of AR is compatbile with the Wii?

    To run GC backups is impossible with SD-load or Samson's Loader, because the debug command for unlocking the drive is either A)ommited B) changed C) protected by an "if" statemenet;p

    PS: regarding the AV being on the same channel: You can use a video switch-box and rout the other wii's signal to the monitor/tv. I used to have a video switchbox for my SEGA Saturn /n64/PSX
     
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  8. MottZilla

    MottZilla Champion of the Forum

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    The latest ARs like version 1.14 and beyond probably work on Wii. Just like the GameCube itself, early versions like 1.06 (that I have) will not run on later model GameCubes presumably because the bios blocks it. Although if you have freeloader you could probably load that and then AR.

    Wii homebrew would ROCK. However, Wi piracy is no good. But homebrew like turning Wii into the ultimate machine like they did Xbox would be bad ass.
     
  9. 1080Peter

    1080Peter everyone knows ps3 make the best games

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    "Wii homebrew would ROCK. However, Wi piracy is no good. But homebrew like turning Wii into the ultimate machine like they did Xbox would be bad ass."

    WHAT? HOW DARE YOU CHALLENGE MY DESIRE TO NOT PAY FOR VIDEO GAMES!

    ;)

    Yeah, I could stand for some better video codec support. But console homebrew is almost always connected with console piracy, which totally blows.
     
  10. WolverineDK

    WolverineDK music lover

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    Ever since the first cracktros/intros/C64 demos (if not even before) then homebrew has always had a distaint smell of something a bit illegal, but still great having at the same time. So yes, it is connected, but not always in a bad way. Like piracy is, but historically speaking :)
     
  11. Shadowlayer

    Shadowlayer KEEPIN' I.T. REAL!!

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    Honestly I'll rather use it to load ROMs into VC since I'm not eager to pay again for games I already have. Obviously ninty could solve this by asking for the cartridge serials but is just too much trouble (for any company) and it would eat into the VCs profits, since you can get some of those games for less in ebay.

    BTW, I'm not into the GCs scene, so whats exactly AR?
     
  12. lwizardl

    lwizardl Living The Dream

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    Action Replay cheat cd
     
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    At 1:16 there is a second where it goes totally black, assumably as the screen changes from the bootloader "photo" to the "which photos do you want to view" selection.

    At 1:18 the camera white balances and adjusts to the new light source as the tv goes black.

    These are easily exploited to cut the video in any editing suite.

    probably not real but we can still hope.
     
  14. krieg747

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    GCoS booted off of a Max Drive Pro memory card works with the Wii, so you can play at least gamecube backups on DVD-r's (plus roms, etc.)
     
  15. Barc0de

    Barc0de Mythical Member from Time Immemorial

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    Krieg747, you can play DVD-r on the Wii? There's no POT modification? The debug command works? please provide a link asap!

    Found the info regarding GCoS

    http://www.gamecubeos.com/modules/mydownloads/

    and

    http://forums.afterdawn.com/thread_view.cfm/185860

    I am unable to find a Max Drive PRO version on sale however. Has it been discontinued?!

    UPDATE: indeed it has been discontinued. Last one went on ebay for 45 pounds. Damn.

    UPDATE II: I tried GCoS on my regular gamecube with a softmod technic, and the damn thing is lying! It detects that I have a Qoob Pro installed :p (is it mixing-up the signals comming from the populated BBA connector?who knows!), but it sure doesn't load DVD-Rs! Also, I think it's time to revisit the old multi-meter and POT. My cube's laser was very picky about certain types of DVD today, although it ran them fine in the past. All this after 15th of Jan of course.. rant off

    I was very interested to run DOL files (my own dol files), through GCoS, because otherwise, with standard softmod technics its not possible to run .dol files from an ISO dvd:(

    ..either that, or I ll have to fire-up the ole' GDEV;)
     
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    MottZilla Champion of the Forum

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    Tmbinc says that the drive password changed for the Wii drive. Supposively a modified GCOS would let you boot GC DVD-Rs on the Wii. They said the new password is the exact same only lowercase. So you could grab the GCOS source, alter it, and recompile. They said that it should be possible for Wii backups too. But homebrew is still no go.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uTx2MAOspS4
     
  17. Barc0de

    Barc0de Mythical Member from Time Immemorial

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    This video was very funny and informative. thanks mottZilla. I understand that I don't need a Max Drive Pro at all it seems, just to edit the source and recompile. Now, to find where the hell i had a compiler:p

    On an update, I was able to boot some DVD-Rs through the GCoS interface on my gamecube (no wii at the moment) (it's all nice and visual compared to the "guess-work" I usually do) , and my bottleneck in not being able to boot everything I had is probably due to bitrot, or my drive having shifted resistance on the POT - which mr.multi-meter should take care of.

    Good thing I have the original discs though, or else i d have to find other ways to re-find the games!
     
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  18. the_steadster

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    Has anyone through wii hackery got a definate set of specs for the system? Or even just through opening the box you could count the RAM chips and work out how much it has.
     
  19. MottZilla

    MottZilla Champion of the Forum

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    Just so you know GC is picky about the media you use and the writer you burn it with. Also, depending on how you boot a game can have a huge effect. Forinstance GCOS 1.5 is less compatible/stable than GCOS 1.4. I had the new Zelda game crash on me with 1.5, so I used 1.4 and had no more issues. Definitely use GCOS 1.4 if you can. Though on the Wii it may be a problem since you swap boot in 1.4 where as in 1.5 you don't.

    Oh well, either way I'm sure soon enough we'll see some new things for Wii.
     
  20. Barc0de

    Barc0de Mythical Member from Time Immemorial

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    The funny thing is that the same media played for me about a year ago, and the discs were kept in perfect condition, stored. no reason to bit-rot really.

    Till now, i used the disc-swap method of A.R, anaconda04 loaded from an EXI port (i.e loaded it from mem card in slot b:p )

    I m not in such a rush actually to "break into" the wii just yet. With such rapid developments, I m certain a proper solution or mod-chip will eventually make its way.

    However, I m very dissappointed in not being able to do homebrew for the Wii off the bat :(
     
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