Wii - VGA RGB/Component

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  1. 1080Peter

    1080Peter everyone knows ps3 make the best games

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    Okay, so the Wii will be releasing with standard 480p support across all games - great! But here are some questions I'm needing help on:

    *Would it be possible to hook a component cable (3x RCA plug) straight to some converter jack that feeds into a computer monitor's VGA port? Do I need some kind of signal converter between the two or can I just do a straight cable to cable solution?

    *Will the computer monitor automatically stretch the source image (in this case, 852 by 480 pixels) to fit the horizontal size?

    *If I hook up from component to DVI-analog, will the Y-Pr-Pb source video be automatically converted, or do I need an in-between format converter?

    Oh, and supposedly there will be a VGA cable, for hooking up to PC monitors and such, but I'm looking over a component cable so I don't have to buy more than one type to use between different monitors.

    I respect this forum a lot because the people here make it a much more informative place. Anyone been to the IGN forums? Man, the moron ratio is much higher there, which is why I enjoy this little niche here. Anyhow, thanks for the wisdom and that's pretty much why I turned here.

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    EDIT: Would this LCD monitor be an acceptable choice for Wii gaming, and if I did component or VGA, what steps should I take?
     
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  2. Barc0de

    Barc0de Mythical Member from Time Immemorial

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    RGB/component is different from VGA(D-sub), which in essense is nothing more than RGBHV. What it means is that whereas RGB/component carries the Horizontal and Vertical sync on green, RGBHV has two seperate (black and white sometimes) RCA/BNC(rarely) connectors to carry Horizontal and Vertical Sync. In reality u need to mod the cable or order a pre-modded one. Your gamecube's wont work either, since its a different connector.
     
  3. hl718

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    You'll need one of two things:

    1) A component -> VGA colorspace converter

    -or-

    2) A VGA cable

    Both will work fine, though if a native VGA cable is available then the second option will be the best.

    And just for the record, 480p is 720x480 (0.9 pixel ratio), not 852x480.
    VGA is 640x480 (1.0 pixel ratio) which is equivalent to 480p.

    Pretty much any computer LCD can handle the VGA input and if you have one that doubles as a TV it'll also handle the component input just fine.

    -hl718
     
  4. karsten

    karsten Member of The Cult Of Kefka

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    i guess that for PAL the best shot would be 576p (720x576) on rgb scart, right? they made the wee to use dvd resolutions at his best, quite smart...

    by the way guys would you check my articles on video input i wrote for the magazine? you seem knoledgeble enough to bring suggestions and correction...

    the topic is here: http://forums.pouncingkitten.com/viewtopic.php?t=40
     
  5. Barc0de

    Barc0de Mythical Member from Time Immemorial

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    well in your article you could also make mention of firewire for video transfer , although this is rarely seen on TV sets and is not used much outside the professional circle :cool:
     
  6. karsten

    karsten Member of The Cult Of Kefka

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    exactly :D and no console that i know of uses it :p
     
  7. hl718

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    Karsten, your article is nice for a casual overview but it doesn't really talk about the different video outputs and it does make a few errors. It's something that I'd expect to see on a consumer site not in a publication targeted towards hardcore gamers.

    You give no justification for placing RGB on the list where you do. And you also claim that RGB cannot carry a high resolution signal, which is false.

    You don't talk about the different variations of DVI and you don't mention that DVI can be *either* analog or digital.

    Component cables also do not carry "red, green and blue" signals. Yes, the cables have red, green and blue plugs on the end but that is a marketing thing and has nothing to do with the actual signal being carried over the wire.

    -hl718
     
  8. karsten

    karsten Member of The Cult Of Kefka

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    give me more details so that i can correct the article... :) anyway i stated that SCART RGB can't carry signal greater then dvd resolution, so no HD throught scart... and why there is no reason for placing rgb on the list there?
    a RGB scart is one of the easiest and best way to connect all the console to tv sets...

    anyway thank you for telling me that DVI can be either digital and analog, never heard of it before!
     
  9. Alchy

    Alchy Illustrious Member

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    DVI contains all the pins from VGA (RGBHV). Should've added that to my edit.
     
  10. APE

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    If your TV has firewire input, you've paid a good deal of money and deserve to use it. 9/10 theres a better chip in the TV than in whatever box the video is coming from.

    My LCD (Dell 2405FPW) will take just about anything. DVI, VGA, Component, Composite, S-Video. Problem is 480p is merely 640x480 pixels on a screen capable of 1920x1200. Basically a very small box unless you stretch it. I was hoping the Wii would ouput 1080i so I could use it, but alas.
     
  11. karsten

    karsten Member of The Cult Of Kefka

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    i think it'll be stretched to full height, so you'll get only black borders from 4:3/16:9 ratio difference
     
  12. la-li-lu-le-lo

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    You really should get a native VGA connector for Wii, if one is available. My Xbox 360 looks far better on my monitor with a VGA cable than with a component cable. Plus, good component to VGA convertors can be very expensive (~$150), and if the 360 VGA cable is any indication it should only be about $40.
     
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