WonderSwan cancelled games

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  1. Celine

    Celine Gutsy Member

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    So in the last few weeks I've got a Wonderswan frenzy.
    The fanbase in the west seems quite weak (or almost non existent) and very very few site are dedicated to this handheld (mostly isolated blogs).
    For example Lynx and Neo Geo Pocket are much better covered despite the combined library of the two having roughly the same number of games of the WS.
    This is likely due to SNK and Atari being more famous and the WS Japan-only nature that made the system an obscurity in the west.
    Thus I thought to do a series of articles for Unseen64 about WS cancelled games (at least those that I could find some images...) that will be available in these days.
    At the end the Wonderswan section of the site should be filled up to 10 articles:
    http://www.unseen64.net/category/wonderswan-2/

    The first two articles are one related to an unknown shooter (I've added recently two more images) while the other is what look like a conversion of Princess Maker that got released on Saturn and Playstation.

    Glad to receive any feedback or suggestion.
     
  2. Yakumo

    Yakumo Pillar of the Community *****

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    I hope you guys managed to dig up a lot of stuff for the WonderSwan.
     
  3. xdaniel

    xdaniel Robust Member

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    I'm sure you've already rummaged around Bandai's old WonderSwan website via the Web Archive, but let me still post one or two things from there:

    http://web.archive.org/web/20030804100549/http://www.swan.channel.or.jp/msplatoon/ - a Gundam game that apparently never made it (IGN lists it as cancelled, can't find it on eBay, this page's capture is from 2003 while the last update was in 2001)

    http://web.archive.org/web/20031219...n.channel.or.jp/swan/software/r_korekara.html - newest available capture of the 2002 variant of the future release page, the bottom three entries never came out (Dice de Chocobo, Final Fantasy III, the aforementioned Gundam game); the one above them (Namco Super Wars) did come out October 31st 2002, so I'm guessing Bandai abandoned this page sometime before

    http://web.archive.org/web/20031207...nel.or.jp/swan/software/r_lineup/lup2003.html - newest available capture of the 2003 software line-up, from December that year, with Final Fantasy III as the sole TBD future release; Dice de Chocobo had disappeared between February and August 2003

    Oh, also: http://web.archive.org/web/20010304...nel.or.jp/swan/software/r_lineup/lup2001.html - this appears to be the last capture on which the Princess Maker game appears, so it's probably been cancelled between March and August 2001
     
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  4. Celine

    Celine Gutsy Member

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    I've updated the Princess Maker article with your annotation xdaniel.

    One of the article is indeed about MSPlatoon, probably the "biggest" cancelled WS game with Final Fantasy III.

    Dice de Chocobo was moved to GBA.

    I gave a look to WS official site although not much about the release list, since I don't understand japanese.
     
  5. Celine

    Celine Gutsy Member

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    New article up: Insect Breeder.
     
  6. Celine

    Celine Gutsy Member

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    New article up: Black-Eyed Noir: Cielgris Chronicle.
    Prequel of a SRPG for PSX by Gust.
     
  7. Celine

    Celine Gutsy Member

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    New article up: Dice de Chocobo.
     
  8. Celine

    Celine Gutsy Member

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    New article up: Super GPS PacMan.
    A curious PacMan game that should have used the aborted GPS add-on.
     
  9. Celine

    Celine Gutsy Member

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    New article up: mobilesuit Gundam MSPlatoon.com .
    An online focused strategy game based on the famous Bandai IP.
     
  10. Celine

    Celine Gutsy Member

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    New article up: Final Fantasy III.
    Too bad the WSC remake was cancelled.
    It's probably the main cause we never got a 2D remake of this episode.
     
  11. Celine

    Celine Gutsy Member

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    New article up: Let's Play Golf.
    What would have been a semi sequel to Wonder Classic (fittingly: one of the WS classic game).
    Namco this time integrated motion controls on the cartridge and use of the GPS Add-on would have guarantee new courses based on the player surrounding.
     
  12. Celine

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    New article up: Magic Formation WARS.
    It was an RPG by Namco that used the GPS add-on to determine monsters position etc.

    With this one this mini-series of article about WonderSwan ends.
    Hope you enjoyed it.
     
  13. xdaniel

    xdaniel Robust Member

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    And here I thought I had my fair share of WonderSwan knowledge - I don't think I had heard about this cancelled GPS add-on before, same goes for some of the other games. Nice work with the articles. If only there were still more screenshots and information about those games out there... well, or if only those games had actually been released, of course :p
     
  14. Flash

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    Yeah, sadly. I prefer high res 2D remakes of FF I,II,IV on PSP to that low poly FFIII stuff on DS/Android.
     
  15. KidA90

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    Thanks for investing the time to dig up all this Wonderswan info. I have a handful of WS games, but have been intrigued by the system for a long time now.
     
  16. Youloute

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    I just found this list:
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    (Gameplay RPG 23 - oct-nov 2000)

    Tamer Terrors II > Terrors II
    Guilty Gear King Breader > Guilty Gear Petit
    Raimu Rider > ?
    Working Chocobos > Dice de Chocobo?
     
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  17. Celine

    Celine Gutsy Member

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    Tamer Terrors II > Terrors II - yup that was a typo, Tamer was part of the previous Digimon title
    Guilty Gear King Breader > Guilty Gear Petit - Yep but King Breeder should have been another separate game from Sammy that went unreleased.
    Raimu Rider > ? - mistranslation of "Rhyme Rider Kerorican" I believe
    Working Chocobos > Dice de Chocobo? - Actually Hataraku Chocobo

    The list came form WSC presentation:
    http://www.ign.com/articles/2000/08/31/wonderswan-color-revealed

    Though I believe it is a mistranslation of this one:
    http://www.eagb.net/gameboy/didknow031.htm
     
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  18. Celine

    Celine Gutsy Member

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    Since the thread was bumped I forgot to post a list of unreleased WS games to help if someone else in the future want to do some research:

    • FinalFantasyIII
    • Seiken Densetsu 2
    • Chocobo's Dungeon 2
    • Dice de Chocobo
    • MS platoon.com
    • Get a triple gate puzzle (tentative)
    • Quiz SWAN! To challenge right brain (tentative)
    • Tamers Digimon Tamers Network (tentative)
    • Discharge WARS Magic team (tentative)
    • Super GPS!! Pac-Man (tentative)
    • Did it with the intention of Golf (tentative)
    • Princess Maker
    • Insect Breeder
    • Maboroshi Tsukiyo for WonderSwanColor
    • King breeder
    • The Adventures of Mr. Mar Pachi husband came back
    • Noah ~ Martinique ~ black Eye black grease Shell
    • Miracle Temple of Death Musapyi
    • Four WonderSwan 326 (provisional)
    • Mahjong King (tentative)
    • Tennis Wonder
    • Cindy 'sCARAT
    • Dino Breeder Episode 1 (tentative)
    • ~ Story ~ Pomitto wing feathers
    • Bikkuriman 2000 - Viva! Wonder Fes Chiba §! ~ (Tentative)
    • Pocket Reversi
    • ~ ~ Search & Duel continent visionary king
    • Falling Love (tentative)
    • Cubes in cute Hello Kitty (tentative)
    • ROX (tentative name)
    • Backgammon (tentative name)

    --------------------------------

    バックギャモン                           アルトロン
    ROX(仮題)                             アルトロン
    ムサピィのみらくるデス魔宮              エコールソフトウェア
    帰ってきたパチ夫くん マールの大冒険            加賀テック
    黒い瞳のノア ~シェルグリス クロニーク~           ガスト
    ハローキティのキューブでキュート          カルチュア・パブリッシャーズ
    キングブリーダー                           サミー
    まぼろし月夜 for WonderSwanColor               シムス
    ディノブリーダー~エピソード1~(仮題)            J・ウィング
    聖剣伝説2                             スクウェア
    聖剣伝説の続編(仮題)                      スクウェア
    ダイスDEチョコボ                         スクウェア
    チョコボの不思議なダンジョン2                 スクウェア
    ファイナルファンタジーIII                     スクウェア
    ロマンシング サ・ガの続編(仮題)                スクウェア
    ビックリマン2000 ビバ!ワンダーフェスチバァ!       セガトイズ
    フォーリング・ラブ(仮題)                    日本プランテック
    ウィングストーリー ~ポミットの羽~            ハル・コーポレーション
    インセクトブリーダー                        バンダイ
    GPS超!!パックマン (仮題)                     バンダイ
    デジモンテイマーズ ネットワークテイマーズ(仮題)       バンダイ
    トリプルパズル ゲートでゲット(仮題)               バンダイ
    SWANでクイズ! 右脳に挑戦(仮題)              バンダイ
    マップ情報ソフト(仮題)                       バンダイ
    魔法陣WARS (仮題)                        バンダイ
    MOBILESUIT GUNDAM MSPLATOON.COM         バンダイ
    やったつもりゴルフ (仮題)                    バンダイ
    プリンセスメーカー ゆめみる妖精 for WonderSwanColor  バンダイビジュアル
    シンディ’s CARAT(仮題)                      ヘキサ
    メイドさんとチェス(仮題)                       ヘキサ
    ワンダーテニス                            ベック
    326ふぉ~わんだ~すわん                    メガハウス
    麻雀王(仮題)   

    Google translate:

    Backgammon Al Tron
    Arutoron ROX (working title)
    Software Ecole des Miracle Temple Musapyi
    The Adventures of Mr. Kaga Tech Mar Pachi husband came back
    Noah ~ ~ gust Martinique Shell Black Eye black grease
    Culture Publishers cubes in cute Hello Kitty
    Sammy King breeder
    Maboroshi Tsukiyo for WonderSwanColor Sims
    Dino Breeder Wing ~ Episode J · (tentative) 1 to
    Seiken Densetsu 2 square
    Sequel Seiken Densetsu Square (working title)
    DE dice Chocobo Square
    Chocobo's Dungeon 2 Square
    Final Fantasy III Square
    The sequel to Romancing SaGa Square (working title)
    Bikkuriman 2000 Viva! Wonder Fes Chiba §! SEGA
    Falling Love Plantech Japan (working title)
    ~ Story ~ wing feathers Hull Corporation Pomitto
    Insect breeder Bandai
    Super GPS!! Bandai Pac-Man (working title)
    Bandai Digimon Tamers Tamers network (working title)
    Get a triple gate puzzle Bandai (working title)
    Quiz SWAN! To challenge right brain Bandai (working title)
    Map information software Bandai (working title)
    WARS magic Bandai (working title)
    MOBILESUIT GUNDAM MSPLATOON. COM Bandai
    Golf was going to do Bandai (working title)
    Dreamed of a fairy princess for WonderSwanColor Bandai Visual Studio
    Cindy 's CARAT hexa (working title)
    Chess and maid hexa (working title)
    Beck Tennis Wonder
    Megahouse's sitting ~ ~ わん folder 326
    Wang Tong Mahjong (working title)
     
  19. xdaniel

    xdaniel Robust Member

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    Foreword: This was supposed to be a tiny, tiny post, yet I ended up researching (if you can call using Google and the Web Archive that) the respective title while typing this up. Especially towards the end of the post, it gets more and more disorganized. So, uh, hope this isn't too boring/weird/whatever a post.

    ---

    I'm kinda curious about Digimon Tamers: Network Tamers... All that Google appears to spit out for this one are "unrelease" lists like the above, as well as one mention on Famitsu's site from March 2001: http://www.famitsu.com/game/coming/2001/03/09/cs09.html

    The next Digimon games to come out on the WSC in 2001 are Digimon Tamers: Digimon Medley (mentioned by Famitsu under the working title of "Digimon Tamers: Digimon KIDS" - http://www.famitsu.com/game/coming/2001/03/09/cs08.html - also in March 2001), released in July, Digimon Tamers: Battle Spirit, released in October, and Digimon Tamers: Brave Tamer, releaed in December.

    I can't seem to find any mention of Brave Tamer (let's say BT for short) before November 2001, so I'm wondering if Network Tamers (NT) either was a working title for BT, or if the original concept of NT evolved into it? Putting Famitsu's above description through Google Translate, apparently NT supported the WonderGate adapter, and could download data from the net that changed the story. Something that might support this theory is that, while BT doesn't have WonderGate support (compare the descriptor icons for D-1 Tamers at http://www.swan.channel.or.jp/swan/software/line_up/index_DGM05.html with those for BT at http://www.swan.channel.or.jp/swan/software/line_up/index_DGM08.html - no cellphone icon for BT), there's login and ranking URLs and such inside the ROMs of both of them (quick and dirty rip from the ROMs):

    Brave Tamer:
    http://digi_b.wgg.channel.or.jp/cgi-bin/
    Content-Type: application/x-www-from-urlencoded
    dmBsignup.cgi
    Content-Length:
    dmBlogin.cgi
    dmBrankbtl.cgi
    dmBrankdl.cgi
    dmBidupld.cgi
    dmBidsrch.cgi
    dmBidbtl.cgi
    http://192.0.2.156

    POST HTTP/1.1
    Host:
    User-Agent: SWAN/1.0 DIGIMON-0B
    Content-Length:
    GET HTTP/1.1
    Host:
    User-Agent: SWAN/1.0 DIGIMON-0B


    D-1 Tamers:
    http://digi4.wgg.channel.or.jp/cgi-bin/
    dm4signup.cgi
    Content-Length:
    dm4login.cgi
    dm4rankbtl.cgi
    dm4rankdl.cgi
    dm4idupld.cgi
    dm4idsrch.cgi
    dm4idbtl.cgi
    http://192.0.2.156

    POST HTTP/1.1
    Host:
    User-Agent: SWAN/1.0 DIGIMON-04

    POST HTTP/1.1
    Host:
    User-Agent: SWAN/1.0 DIGIMON-04
    Content-Type: application/x-www-from-urlencoded
    #9602

    http://www.gwp3d.com/chater.asis
    http://wgb01.channel.or.jp:80/service/charge/nph-gettime
    wgb01.channel.or.jp
    POST /service/charge/nph-gettime HTTP/1.1
    Host: wgg01.channel.or.jp
    User-Agent: SWAN/1.0


    Also, back to search results and such, take this Web Archive snapshot from August 2001: http://web.archive.org/web/20010814...nel.or.jp/swan/software/r_lineup/lup2001.html

    Release TBD: デジモンテイマーズ ネットワークテイマーズ(仮) - Digimon Tamers: Network Tamers (temporary)
    October: デジモンテイマーズ バトルスピリット - Digimon Tamers: Battle Spirit
    July: デジモンテイマーズ デジモンメドレー - Digimon Tamers: Digimon Medley

    ...and no mention of Brave Tamers whatsoever, 4 months before its release. Two more snapshots:

    August 2001: http://web.archive.org/web/20010814...n.channel.or.jp/swan/software/r_korekara.html - Network Tamers under undecided near the bottom.
    October 2001: http://web.archive.org/web/20011031...n.channel.or.jp/swan/software/r_korekara.html - Brave Tamers slated for December.

    ...hm, in my opinion, this is pointing more and more at Brave Tamer being Network Tamers, but (officially?) with the WonderGate features stripped out...
     
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